Harry Potter reactions

Whew! I finally saw it this afternoon, at the Chinese Mann no less!

Most of what I and Mr. Rilch think has already been said, but I have a few additions. First, though, I must repeat two earlier assertions.

Voiceover would have improved things greatly, and Hermione was shafted by not getting to solve the logic puzzle.

Me: “What about the logic puzzle? That was Hermione’s big play!”

Mr. Rilch: “She did the Devil’s Snare.”

Me: “Whoop-de-freakin’ doo. It’s always like that. The boys do the big showy plays, and the girl’s contribution is oh-by-the-way.”

Mr. Rilch: “Yeah, but what could have followed that chess game?”

Me: “Mmm.”

Mr. Rilch: “Still, they could have tweaked it just a bit and put the logic puzzle before the chess game.”

Beyond that:
In the house on the rock, Hagrid asks Harry, “Haven’t strange things ever happened when you were angry or afraid?” Harry does what he does best (in the film): stares blankly, and Columbus does what he does best (in this film): cuts to another scene. There could have been some way to bring up the early magical incidents, like little Harry’s hair growing back overnight after Mrs. Dursley shaved it off. A quick montage sequence would have sufficed.

The first-years were supposed to be sorted alphabetically. Now, I realize the only people you need to see are Harry, Ron, Hermione, Draco and Neville, but Hermione is not first, and Ron is supposed to be last out of all. Says Mr. Rilch, “A simple matter of dissolves.”

Harry and Draco first meet when they’re being fitted for their robes. It’s a somewhat tense scene: on their platforms across the room from each other, with no adults around for some reason, and Draco making his snippy comments without realizing who Harry is. But Draco was awesome nonetheless!

In the infirmary scene, when Dumbledore explains how Harry’s mother sacrificed herself for him, did anyone notice that you couldn’t see Harry’s eyes at all? It was a very odd framing: profile, and you could see his eye sockets, but not the actor’s most crucial tool: the eyes themselves. That scene did not have the impact it should have. I don’t think that bodes well for subsequent films, because every story ends that way: Harry finding out more about his family, and almost breaking down, but barely managing not to. If it didn’t come off this time…

IMHO, Ron is not supposed to be homely. He’s supposed to be one of those rough-hewn Irish/cockney lads who’s going to be devastatingly masculine once his frame stops growing and his physique catches up. Also, Rowling makes quite a point about Harry’s hair utterly refusing to cooperate with a comb. It shouldn’t just be unkempt, it should be a bird’s nest.

However, I join the chorus of howls for Oliver Wood!

Mr. Rilch thought the payoff, when Neville’s ten points put Gryffindor over the top, was sadly underplayed. It shouldn’t have just been a closeup on him; it should have been a closeup and then a pan out to the entire hall going wild. Furthermore, Hermione was supposed to hide tears when she got her fifty points. Seeing as she was robbed of her big moment, she should have cried about that!

“Hi, I’m character A! Hi, I’m character B! And I’m character C!” I was so looking forward to seeing John Cleese, but the fact is, we don’t find out why Sir Nicholas is “Nearly” Headless, nor that he’s bitter about it, until I think book 2. Or 3. But at any rate, in book 1, he’s one of the many, many anomalies about Hogwarts that the first-years have to accept and deal with. It irked me quite a bit that everything had an explanation-let’s-move-on.

Mr. Rilch says the music from the chess scene is going to be used in “every frikken’ action trailer from now on!” All hail John Williams!

Hagrid is going to be Robbie Coltrane’s signature performance.

(Oh, and I saw the LOTR trailer, the SW Ep2:AOTC trailer, and the trailer for Kate and Leopold (Hugh Jackman in knee breeches…drool…)! Nyahh!)

Ah, Sir Nicholas shows the students how he’s nearly headless in the first book. The second book brings up the Headless Hunt. He disappears, more or less, for the other two books.

And Rilchiam:
Most of the girls I know think that the actor playing Ron is going to be quite attractive when he’s older. So maybe he will be devastatingly masculine later. :slight_smile:
jessica

I liked it, but I loved the book more.

a few things:

Ron stole the show. Unequivocally. I don’t remember Oliver Wood being such a hottie in the book. Same almost goes for the Weasley brothers. Hermione was far too cute. And her hair? Sometimes it was teased, sometimes curly, and at one point, crimped!! I needed some consistency there. The movie did feel rushed to me, but I realize that could hardly be helped. I would have liked more than one Quidditch scene, and I would have LOVED the ride down into Gringotts.

He’s certainly an adorable kid… :slight_smile:

Saw it this Monday at 3pm–nicely dovetailing matinee pricing and lack of kids.

I echo all the comments about economy of plot with regards to sheer amount of storytelling versus time allowed.

I enjoyed seeing the chocolate frog hopping up the window and out, only to be swept away in the train’s slipstream.

Quidditch match was fantastic! Lots of action–this was definitely the film’s “Pod Race”. You gals can have the rugged, devastatingly handsome Oliver Wood (thank heaven I am secure in my heterosexuality!); I thought the female players were ruggedly attractive in their own right.

Wish we could’ve seen more of Longbottom’s problems, especially in Snape’s Potions classes (like the melting cauldron=outbreak of boils bit) since it’s Severus who is Neville’s ultimate bully.

John Cleese was a most pleasant surprise. I hear Rik Mayall was to be Peeves? Damn… I thought he would’ve been perfect as Gilderoy, after his turn with the same sort of character as Lord Flashheart in the Blackadder series.

The CGI Firenze definitely didn’t impress, so I guess it’s good we didn’t meet Bane and the other centaur…

I was quite happy with the understated way in which the portraits moved around, most especially the one in the upper right hand corner near the end of the film, with Dumbledore and Harry in the hospital wing.

And for the record, we got the LoTR trailer, but no Star Wars Ep.2 … good thing I got it on tape from work (thanks CNN Newssource feed!)

Was anyone else gripped by the almost uncontrollable urge to start singing (“It’s oooooooonly forever, it’s not long at all…”) every time those CGI owls appeared?

:confused:

Okay, finally saw it yesterday (along with Monsters, Inc.). Not a bad flick - (former)Roommate and I enjoyed ourselves immensely, and neither of us re-read the book (just so we could enjoy the movie).

As fas as the owls’ flights - there was some real lying in there, but I’d say most of it was obviously blue-screened (having the owls fly at the camera in a wind tunnel) and (IMHO) pretty bad computer work.

And I counted 5 species:

Snowy Owl (males)
Great Gray Owl
Barn Owl
Eagle Owl
Great Horned Owl

Can’t wait for the DVD so I can pause the scene with all the owls in the front yard and do a proper count. [Now THAT was a fun scene for me.]

Well, it’s not so funny once explained (if it was even funny to begin with), but I was referencing the title sequence to the '80s fantasy film Labyrinth, which features a white CGI owl.

Saw it on Wednesday night. Loved it. Four stars out of four. Have never read the books, but certainly intend to now.

First of all, the visual effects in the movie were amazing. Many of those scenes would have been impossible even a few years ago. In this movie, the effects blend in so well that you barely notice them, except for one or two annoying spots. I personally thought that the centaur was done very well, and so were Fluffy and the troll. The overall story was incredibly suspenseful.

My theatre didn’t show the “Star Wars” trailer. It did have the LotR trailer, but I had seen that one several times before. In my opinion, the trailer for “Scooby Doo” was outstanding. I knew from the start that it was a parody trailer of some sort, but it was still funny.

I agree with a lot of the things said previously, but of all the “little things” that were changed from the book to the movie, what they did to the Sorting Hat was the one that irks me the most.

As mentioned earlier, they didn’t sort the first years in alphabetical order… but I can understand this, as we don’t need to see fifty kids or whatever.

What happened to the song the hat sings? In the book, the Hat sings a song about the origins of Hogwarts and the four founders, Gryffindor, Ravenclaw, Hufflepuff and Slytherin… and the personality traits that the people in those Houses tend to have. Although it would have added a minute or two to the movie, it would have been a relatively quick way to explain these background ideas. I must have spend ten minutes after the movie explaining some on this to people who hadn’t read the books first.

The biggest abomination was the way they had the Sorting Hat talk aloud while it was sorting them. In the book, the person could hear the Hat muttering to itself in their ear. The only time it talked aloud was to announce what House they would be in. This wasn’t too bad in most cases, but for Harry it was ridiculous. So WTF? Everyone in the Great Hall can hear Harry say “Not Slytherin”, and everyone hears the hat go into the “You could be great, and Slytherin would help you” speech? This totally doesn’t work.
BTW, I second the motion that Oliver Wood should get much more screen time in the next movie.

I say it yesterday, and while it was enjoyable, it missed something that i felt was crucial to the Hp mythos.

Culture Shock and the otherworldliness of the wizarding world.

Harry took everything wierd that wasn’t about to kill him in stride, with no reaction or confusion. Ron, in turn, wasn’t confounded by any muggle refrences Harry made.

There’s a great scene in the book were a muggle-born Gryfyndor hangs up a poster of his favorite football team, and the wizard-born roommates stand around pokin it and wondering why the players don’t move. That’s Harry Potter. The dichotomy between Wizards and Muggles is centrasl to the book, and the Voldemort/Dumbledore war’s leading motivation!

It’s all gone. When he see the Potters’ murder, they’re even living in a Muggle-looking home!

Also, Dumbledore was too down to earth and Hogwarts looked like the Haunted Mansion from Disneyland.

Three stars out of four. A disappointment only in comparison to the source material.

And the AOTC trailer sucked rocks.

I found the movie very disappointing, but for reasons different than most have cited. Movies and books are inherently different media for story-telling, and it is not possible for a movie to duplicate a book, nor for a book to duplicate a movie.

The book is primarily about a young boy becoming independent and learning about himself. Other plot elements are secondary or supportive of the main theme. The movie is primarily about trying to capture as many plot elements as possible, and Harry as a character vanishes into the generic “cute and good li’l kid.”

The book begins with Mr Dursley, in a normal, everyday world, seeing odd things and reacting negatively. Harry then learns that he is part of that magical world.

The movie begins with the assumption that magic happens all the time. We see nothing of Harry’s “normal” life, the first we really see of Harry is when the glass disappears in the snake pit, and Harry smiles with delight. Is this a normal occurrence? Does magic happen all the time to Harry? Well, the readers of the books know that it doesn’t, but the movie doesn’t make that point at all.

I wish that the movie had cut more of the plot elements to help develop the characters. Another quick example: the whole point about the quiddich match in the book is that Harry is trying to gain acceptance at school, and being a hero in the athletic game is a means to that end. That’s totally lost in the movie. The quiddich match is just like the pod-race in STAR WARS: PHANTOM MENACE – a chance to do roller-coaster like special effects. Ho-hum.

Maybe all the cut footage will be put back into the DVD version, or maybe it should have been a ten-hour miniseries. In any case, I found the movie an enjoyable watch, but I certainly wouldn’t bother to see it again.

It will be interesting to see how it does financially in the second week, after everyone has seen it. I predict a major falling-off of revenue – parents will not want to go a second and third time.

I loved it. Great movie.

I’m posting without having read the thread, but here are my impressions. First, I only recently read the first Harry Potter book. I don’t have any kids, but I wanted to see what the fuss was about. As for the film…

I liked it. I had a cup of chai and had been sucking on some Coke, so I did have to get up and go downstairs to the toilet; so I missed a few minutes of it. I liked the casting. “Harry Potter” looked right to me. “Hermione” was also cute. She didn’t seem as stuck up as she did in the book. They didn’t include all of the dragon (“Norbert”) stuff, but as I was reading the book it seemed as if it didn’t really need to be in there anyway. I thought they should have shown what hell Harry lived in before he found out he was a wizard. It seemes to me that they glossed over that part. I wanted to see the part where Harry’s cousin got a pig’s tail, but there was a woman with two children who needed to urinate, and they were passing in front of me at that moment so I missed it. There seemed to be a lot of stuff that was either glossed over or missing. But the film was already 2 1/2 hours long.

After the film I had to jettison the rest of the internal stores of Coke. As I stood there succumbing to the physiological imperetive I heard a couple of young boys talking about how long the film was. (I didn’t see them, but they sounded about 12.) “It started at 3:00, and it said the next time was 7:00. That movie was three hours long!” (He did some figuring…) “No! It was five hours long!”

In the book, I don’t think this is gratuitous. Harry might have won that Quidditch match, but Gryffyndor doesn’t win the cup, IIRC. The house cup was a big deal, because Snape had been shaving points off everyone all year and Harry, Hermione and Ron had become pariahs for losing 50 points each.

The preceding paragraph illustrates my feelings about the movie. I loved the book, but due to previous bad experiences with novel adaptations, I didn’t expect to be blown away by the movie. I understood the movie because I knew the story, but I could also spot all the abset small details that made the book so rich.

For example, two of the things I loved at the end of the book were the entire hall celebrating the downfall of Slytherin and Percy telling everyone that his youngest brother beat the chess set. The movie doesn’t include these. I loved the part where Dumbledore changed the decorations after Gryffyndor won, but the movie doesn’t do a good job of communicating why this should matter.

All in all, I think it was a decent adaptation, but I would tell anyone who liked it to read the book.

Ok good, I’m not the only one who was having… impure thoughts… every time he came on screen. :::fanning self::::

No, Opal, you certainly were not. coughs :wink:

rastahomie, tretiak, wumpus, the harry potter books are filled with a mix of mythology and celtic and anglo-saxon tales. dumbledore and merlin do have a lot in common. there is a zeus connection with dumbledore as well. i think jk did a great job mixing many traditions into the books.

the connections do seem to get lost in the movie version. the fluffy change mentioned above is just one thing that on the surface may not seem important and could be changed, but shouldn’t be.

I saw it yesterday afternoon. I’ve read the books, and was pretty impressed.

Things they had perfect:
All of the casting. Every single person down to Neville was perfectly cast.
The sets. My own imagination didn’t do Hogwarts justice, both the interior and the exterior.

Things that were poor:
The CGI. I was completely unimpressed. The Quiddich match looked really bad. The centaur and the troll were terrible, and the owl’s flight pattern was ridiculous. This REALLY took away from the movie.
The ending. I wasn’t a big fan of the explanation in the book, but I dare any person who hasn’t read the book to explain to me how the stone got into Harry’s pocket.