when I first saw this a year or so ago it was a response to something and it was a picture of the character Karen on will and grace with a snarky response on top and “ok Karen” on the bottom so i thought it was like the “bye felicia” thing …
The other famous “satchel-mouth” is Margarete von Tirol (14th century). They were not speaking English, naturally.
You haven’t led a full life until you have married a Karen or two.
The lil’wrekker who’s on social.media nearly constantly (21yo) says a Karen is: “Every girl who was mean to you in highschool, and is now a middle aged white woman who is mad at the world and doesn’t vaccinate her kids.”
Exact quote.
Now, I’m not arguing that she knows all but, she is well versed on the internet culture of her generation.
So there’s a young persons opinion.
I’ve been hearing this reference (as well as “Becky”) re: demanding white women since 2017. Where have y’all been? 
Here’s an example: https://twitter.com/Freeyourmindkid/status/849983898717126662?s=20
“You literally came into my mentions and have been trying to change the topic since last night, this is peak Caucasity, Becky.”
https://twitter.com/search?q=%40Freeyourmindkid%20becky&src=typed_query
This is just one popular Black Twitter account, I can find others. Here’s Propane Jane using the term constantly:
https://twitter.com/search?q=%40docrocktex26%20becky&src=typed_query
Or, to put it another way, they are doing completely appropriate things that have been absolutely normal in English for hundreds of years.
Dang, I’m glad my real name isn’t Karen.
Post 105, Beck. 
I had a Karen-named girlfriend in college for nearly three years. She’s an African-American lady, and no doubt horrified by this turn of events.
I saw that. That what I was responding to, albeit facetiously. (:))
Karen gets shit done by being overbearing and domineering. Calling a politician that seems…like a compliment. And let’s be honest, Elizabeth Warren seems like a Karen.
Now, being called Felicia…that’s not a good place.
That all sounds super crazy. Well, here’s a question: we all know how Adolf Dassler suddenly became Adi. Is there any evidence of Karen turning into Karenina, Kathy, Kitty, Katya, etc.?
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I think the “Karen” meme was funny when it first emerged, but now people are using it to describe any and every case of a white woman (not necessarily middle-aged) being “bad”. “Karen” is accused of not just being rude to restaurant waitstaff, but also pushing MLMs, being anti-vax, cheating on her husband, and being a basic bitch who puts raisins in potato salad. It’s a catch-all for “stupid woman who gets on your nerves”. Middle-age and haircut are optional.
The other day, I overheard a coworker say, “I’m not trying to be a Karen, but I don’t like this.” Of course people giggled in response. But I think it’s kind of messed-up that she felt the need to throw in that qualifier. It would be like a black guy saying, “Not to be Angry Black Guy, but I don’t like this.” Just because it’s kinda funny doesn’t make it also kinda sad.
And it does strike me as unfair that there isn’t a named meme for bad-behaving men with the same kind of traction.
So I can see why someone why think “Karen” is sexist and racist. But I think the most apt descriptor for it is “shit that’s been done to death”.
What is stopping you from creating and promoting that meme?
You know, you’ve always struck me a decent guy. But this is a stupid trollish question. Nothing I posted should give you the impression that I’m a fan of memes and that I want to waste time creating/promoting any. So come the fuck on.
Monstro, you may have forgotten what forum you’re in, but fwiw it’s worth I thought your analysis was spot-on and perceptive, and I agree that it didn’t deserve that pointless response.
Sorry if I came off as trollish, I honestly thought it was an appropriate suggestion to your statement I was responding to. I won’t try to explain my thinking, rather I’ll just withdraw my suggestion and apologize.
And then there was Adolph “Harpo” Marx, who mysteriously turned into an Arthur somewhere around 1933.
I get it, I just don’t think it’s cool to pick a supposedly random name and giving it a negative connotation. I wouldn’t want to be an Isis right now either (which is a mercifully less common name).
I don’t think a lot of people would like to wake up and find out that their name became synonymous with “douchebag” overnight, especially since there is no real source unlike say, Adolf.