Have we morally failed Afghanistan?

Personally I’d say thinking we had to modernize Afghanistan was a mistake.

I think there’s a chance we could have supported the tribal/feadal power structure that existed and helped maintain some level of stability that held off the Taliban in a more sustainable way.

First, just so you know, the “Atlantic” article you quoted is not from the magazine The Atlantic; it is from a political think-tank, “Atlantic Council.”

Secondly, I read the Wikipedia article, and I read the Atlantic Council article. There is zero mention of Afghanistan in either article, and the Northern Lights Pipeline goes nowhere near Afghanistan. What is the point you are trying to make?

Northern Lights is the back history and CIA Involvement late sixties, seventies . Northern Lights Pipeline tied into Nordsteam 1. Then into Nordstream 2 =
GAZAPROM = Russia Gas and oil.

Biden Role:

Remember when Trump had sanctions on Russia?

Posting links to the exact same two articles, without spelling out specifically what they have to do with Afghanistan, does not help explain your point to me in the slightest, @shh1313.

@kenobi_65 I was trying to beat the edit window So yes I am aware. I thought I did. I guess I been following this 5/6 years now/ I assumed everyone knew this. Especially here.

Money, oil, guns, poppies, next up BRI maybe war with Iran. We’ll find out. World War lll next.

Just asking I told him, you and I’m done.

Bye the way., I’m not a guy. I’m a woman.
Stephanie aka Shh1313

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Xi Jinping sent a spokes person to Afghanistan last week. Their turn in the barrell.

THIS IS SPECULATION
Xi Ping wants to loan Afghanistan money for equipment for mining and infrastructure.

THIS IS SPECULATION

Remember when we were talking about pipelines in Afghanistan?

I do.

Unlike the former government, which had an all-volunteer army, the Taliban commonly resorted to extremely difficult to evade conscription. If only because of that, I wouldn’t do either.

Money, guns, lawyers. Next up WZ:

I went home with the waitress, the way I always do
How was I to know, she was with the Russians, too?

I was gambling in Havana, I took a little risk
Send lawyers, guns and money, dad, get me out of this, ha

I don’t understand why you cited this. What do Lao poppy farmers in the 1960’s have to do with an alleged plan for a pipeline through Afghanistan 40 years later? What do you think this explains?

Well, ya see, Wernher von Braun was seriously into chasing the dragon, it wasn’t just a code name for rocket launches, and there was a bit of confusion and Kennedy accidentally invaded Vietnam to get opium for him but Braun preferred Afghan opium so Johnson killed Kennedy and, well, there’s more but you need to do your own research…

@crowmanyclouds and the plot thickens… :slight_smile:

The clarity is devastating. But where is the ambiguity? It’s over there in a box. … The point is taken, the beast is molting, the fluff gets up your nose. The illusion is complete; it is reality, the reality is illusion and the ambiguity is the only truth. But is the truth, as Hitchcock observes, in the box? No there isn’t room, the ambiguity has put on weight.

No hay banda! There is no band. Il n’est pas de orquestra! This is all a tape-recording. No hay banda! And yet, we hear a band. If we want to hear a clarinette, listen. It’s all a tape. It is an illusion.

And as for Afghanistan, well:

Well we barely make the airport
For the last plane out
As we taxied down the runway
I could hear the people shout
They said, “don’t come back here Yankee”
But if I ever do
I’ll bring more money
'Cause all she wants to do is dance

Little_Nemo, thanks for that response on the Mujahideen, etc.

Just_Asking_Questions: undoubtedly David Lynch movies make more sense than some of the conspiracy theories currently floating around the Internet. For example, a certain disreputable Congresswoman has declared that Biden is leaving Afghanistan so that his secret partner China can get its hands on rare-earth metals that are situated there.

I’m not going to link because it’s, well, disreputable.

And now I know why; Pete and Chasten have been in the process of adopting a child.

Congrats to them! I just know that child will be much loved.

Oh that’s great. So happy for all of them.

That’s wonderful! I literally ahhhh’d.