Add alcohol addiction to that list, because it’s bad too.
Yep, addiction to legal substances can be just as damaging and horrible as addiction to illegal substances. It’s all bad.
Yes, but she has been in recovery since the conception of her 21 year old daughter. At least she was responsible enough to give it up when she got pregnant.
My counselor told me he’s seen far too many people start to love their liqueur more than their kids.
FTB?
I’ve known several Crackheads, and NO the addiction isn’t similar to other addictions due to its speed of high and intensity.
Yes all addictions are bad, and yes alcohol probably causes more misery then any other drug, due to its legality and widespread use.
Well now that I’ve mentioned the Red Herrings and got them out of the way I’'ll get back to the point.
The people I knew became addicted incredibly quickly, the number of hits for them also rose very quickly.
At first as quite high earners they could just about afford their habit by not spending money on other things, and they functioned outwardly quite normally.
They then started getting new customers for their dealers in return for free hits, also sold it themselves for free hits (not money) , and would borrow money without any intentions of repayment from friends and relations.
And then when people started realising what these people were like they started stealing anything that they could and then eventually selling themselves for sex.
They were very unpleasant people to be around, giggling like children when “up”, and then in very aggressive foul tempers when they came down not that long afterwards.
They tend to have very little or no self esteem, (hence the $10 blow jobs, and stealing off of close members of their family) so that the poster who was getting indignant by proxy about them being called “Crack Whores” (Male or female ) was being a little bit silly.
You’d have to work very, very hard to offend them in any way (Except on a come down where asking them the time might throw them into a rage ), let alone calling them a C.W. which is after all a pretty accurate description of them.
One other point, someone up thread started talking about the effects of cocaine, Coke and Crack are different entities with different effects, the difference between cheese and butter.
If you don’t actually know this then you’re not really qualified to debate the subject.
As to the bleeding heart, "Oh we should feel sorry for them, its not their fault, its an illness ", sorry but that doesn’t cut it.
Apart from the fact that the initial smoking of the stuff is self inflicted, if everyone who acted anti socially was “suffering” from a disease then murderers, paedophiles and rapists would also be victims, and as such not to be punished but treated with compassion instead.
Well good luck with that.
I do think that the people who have cried "Wolf "in the past about drugs are to blaim at least in part for some of the spread of drug use.
When people are warned about the seriously addictive nature of some drugs, or the behavioural or psychological damage that they can do , its not surprising that they disbelieve what they’re told because they were told the same thing about Marijuana.
And ignore the warnings.
Equally guilty at the other end of the spectrum are the apologists for drug fuelled criminals when they lump all drugs together, describing them as all bad etc.
You got me. “Fuck that bullshit” is the best I could come up with.
Actually it’s the same thing. The delivery system is different, and crack has been neutralized to allow a lower vapor point. But it affects the brain in the same way. As mentioned before, crack gets to the brain faster, so is taken in smaller doses that wear off faster, encouraging the cycle. Like any other drug, it affects different people differently, so not every crack user ends up in the vicious cycle ruining their lives. There many anecdotes about crackheads and their behavior, but crack isn’t much different from other potent substances when it comes to addictive behavior. The rapid cycling of satisfaction and withdrawal speeds up the dependency process, and the low cost and high availability are factors in the behavior. But as with many addictions, it’s easy to switch from one addiction to another. I know there are a number of crack users who switched to crystal meth as that became more available. Their behavior changes with the nature of the drug, but they’ll lie, whore, and steal just like crackheads do.
Bitch? Bullshit? Let’s just drop it, please.
Look, everyone, make your points without resorting to name calling. I feel ridiculous doing all this babysitting.
Hence my point about cheese and butter, they’re both from the same substance .
The delivery system is everything, its the difference between drinking eight pints of average strength beer say, over a period of hours, or of "necking " a half pint of spirit straight off.
The "base " is the same but the effects completely different.
Sorry was replying to TRI POLAR but two quick posts slipped in when I wasn’t looking !
I’d never seen the term and some Googling tells me that it stands for “FEED THE BIRDS” and is the internet equivalent of a high-five. Something tied into Nathan Fillion & Firefly so I’m confident that this is what it’s being used for - this being the Dope and all.
Not nearly as serious as what’s being suspected, it seems.
HIGH FIVE
My bad, apologies.
I used to work in a drug treatment facility, so yes.
In college I took a an African American studies class. The professor (a preeminent expert in a specific field) was odd, had terrible memory, was spacey and just not right. I turned to a buddy of mine the first day of class and said, “This woman is on crack.” Three years later she was arrested for possession of crack cocaine and dealing, she had Jamaican dudes living in her house and selling in community. No joke. Hello federal prison.
It has always bothered me though when people flippantly say…“so and so is on crack”. It is a drug addiction people love to mock, but really, nothing is funny about it.
Ok, that’s a fair comparison.
Thank you. When I see these stupid internet acronyms, I want to know what they mean. I mean, what the hell? It’s a comment in this thread. We’re not allowed to discuss what a post is supposed to mean if it’s unclear?
So considering that the world of diagnosing defines and clearly differentiates use, abuse, and dependence/addiction, how would you describe what he does with crack (I know that sounds odd)?
Now I have that stupid Mary Poppins song in my head and can’t stop singing it. It is more addictive than crack and now my neighbors will hate me and my scabby singing mouth.
Bite your tongue; that’s a beautiful song. Me, I’m hearing Bryan Adams sing the title of this thread every time I see it. I’m a bad person, though, so.
And to answer the OP’s question, no. I’ve seen friends get addicted to alcohol, cocaine, heroin, and meth, but never crack, as far as I know. It may well be worse, but seriously, the others were plenty bad enough.