Have you uncovered a prior owner's sloppy do-it-yourself work in your home?

This is on my mind today because I just emerged from my basement, where I spent the past hour redoing an awful wiring job that was done by a prior owner years ago.

In the workshop area there are two large banks of fluorescent bulbs, four tubes each. A while ago, the ballast began to go on one of them, so I bought a new ballast at Home Depot and set happily to work on what should have been a simple task.

The problems:[ol]
[li]The whole light assembly (4 tubes) was held up to the joists by two tiny sheetmetal screws.[/li][li]The cover (the entire panel behind the tubes) wasn’t even screwed on – it was held in place by two little indentations that were clearly made to hold it up while you put eight screws in the obviously vacant holes provided.[/li][li]There was no wire clamp on the Romex cable going into the housing – the plastic cable was rubbing right against the sharp edges of the knockout.[/li][li]No wire nuts were present. The fellow simply twisted wires together and wrapped them with electrical tape.[/li][li]The ground wire of the Romex was wrapped around a thicker ground wire that was simply wedged in a convenient hole, no screw or clip used.[/ol][/li]
I know that these aren’t really a big deal, but I still was annoyed at the carelessness of whoever put this fixture in place.

In the past hour, I screwed the fixture firmly to the joists with four heavy screws, put a wire clamp on the cable, put a proper ground wire in place, added wire nuts everywhere, and I screwed the whole case shut properly. The lights look nice.

Of course, this isn’t the only sloppy workmanship I have encountered, but it’s fresh on my mind. Among other things, most of the outlets in our house are upside down (ground prong on top).

What have you found in your home that made you think dark thoughts about a prior handyman?

One day, the shower quit working. Well, water would still flow, it just stayed inside the wall until it reached the first floor, where it would follow joists and come through the kitchen ceiling. I found a corroded black iron coupling (the kind you use to join natural gas pipes) connecting the faucets to the shower line.
Once while helping a friend repaper a room, we discovered a closet door that had simply been papered over. But there were no cool surprises when we opened the door, we just found the trim that had been removed.

Not actually work done to the house, but a few months after my mother moved into her new house she discovered that the previous owner’s idea of fixing the septic tank alarm was to turn it to silent.

In the house we used to live in, the owners had “redone” the kitchen. That their taste was excreble is not the point. (They favored ultra-busy paisley wallpaper.) In the kitchen, they used this gawd-awful fake wood chair rail, and when they angle-cut the corners, they cut it the wrong way, which left a triangle-shaped gap in each corner.

The single worst home-improvement job I have ever seen was in a house Hubby and I toured when we were shopping for a new home. It was advertised as one and a half baths. The “half bath” turned out to be a toilet in the closet in one of the bedrooms. The door was one of those slide-track kind. If one were sitting on the toilet, you couldn’t close the door, because there wasn’t more than an inch clearance between the edge of the toilet and the door. There wasn’t a sink, either. No light fixture, but I guess you wouldn’t need one.

It was advertised as having a “finished basement”, which, to the homeowner meant painting the cinderblock walls, and laying a piece of linoleum on the floor. Mind you, it wasn’t tacked or glued down in any way. (It curled up so attractively at the edges!)

The stairs going down into the basement had been replaced by treads nailed to a pair of two-by-fours in the center. (No hand rail!) When you walked down, each step tilted a good three inches, so you had to be careful to stay in the exact center, or risk being dumped over the side.

He had nailed a couple of ceiling tiles in place-- you know, the kind that usually goes with a “drop” ceiling? Well, he decided to forgo all of that silly track and support business, and just nail them directly to the floor studs above. With roofing nails. (You know, the ones with the half-inch-in-diameter heads?)This evidently proved too taxing, because the rest of them were in a pile in the corner. (The realtor helpfully pointed them out, and said it would be a breeze to finish.)

There was a crack in the wall large enough for me to stick my hand in, which he had apparently attempted to repair with plaster. At least, that’s what I deduced from the crumbled pile of it below the crack, and the remnants clinging to the edges.

After moving into her new house, my Mother soon enough discovered that 90% of the additions to the house that had been made by the previous owner were not only illegally carried out, but shoddily done to the point where - going strictly by building codes and standards - it was technically unliveable.

In reality it was fairly liveable, but somewhat dodgy.

Because my Mum hadn’t done the appropriate thorough checking beforehand, she was liable for the building code transgressions, so she took the previous owner to Court.

To make a hugely long story short, four years later she won her case, and the guy had to buy the house back, plus damages incurred.

Our first home together was built in the 1920s by hand, from a kit that could be purchased from Sears. We’ve seen the original plans, but the guy who built ours apparently thought he could do better. So he moved a bunch of stuff. Like the staircase that was supposed to be on the right side of the living room - he moved it to the left, so the stairs ended in front of the living room picture window. And he originally eliminated the entire second floor that this gigantic mahoganey staircase led to, deciding instead to have it lead to a closet door that opened OUT - so you had to back down two steps to open the door. Then, he decided to go ahead and add that second floor, and he built it on to the back of the aforementioned closet. Once he added the second floor, though, he decided to quit and left it as an extremely large finished attic. With no ductwork for heat (nor obviously for the central air he added in the 60s.) He also thought the original kitchen was too big, so he moved the chimney from the furnace about two feet over and enclosed it with a closet door smack in the middle of the kitchen. And the two bedrooms with the shared bath that opened off the living room? He didn’t care for THAT idea either, so he closed off the living room wall, added a short hallway between the bedrooms and opened the bathroom onto the dining room.

Oh, and we don’t think he owned a level, either. So when he got to corners in the walls that wouldn’t match up, he just made vertical “steps” in the walls. And THEN, he went and left his wife’s ghost there for us to deal with.

So in the downstairs living room, they had put in a carpet–which is fine, only they didn’t remove the old one. Yep, they just laid it on top of the old blue and red 70’s one. Which was glued to the subfloor mind you. This was a delight when we were putting in the wood flooring. Not only was the second carpet glued down, but also moldy as all get out.

In pretty much every room in our house, there are textured walls. You know when they take the shape and basically tap a design on them? Well I got that on walls AND ceilings. The prior owners solution was to cover the walls with wallpaper. Multiple times. It’s like an archeological dig here. Oh and for the kicker, they painted over some old birds of paradise wallpaper before placing the newer, hipper 80’s wallpaper on the walls. Do you know how difficult it is to strip out painted wallpaper? It’s hard. Very hard.

Oh and it is even harder to, nay, impossible to strip the crap the put into the other room. It was literally straw glued to the wall. Ended up re-spackling the whole deal.

And the poor tape jobs on walls when painting amnd the usual surprises like - Hey! there are only 2 phone jacks in the 5 downstairs rooms.

not really ‘work,’ but since we moved into our house about 4-5 years ago, I have steadily found more and more sharp object buried deep in my shag carpet. Mostly straightpins and more recently drywall nails. It seems like it was done purposefully, but I could be wrong.

They did that on Trading Spaces once. Why would people do this?

I once rented a house that seemed to have been owned by an unfortunate man whose children had given him a staple gun for Christmas…and it drove him quite mad. The house was filled with things that were almost right. The garage conversion was apparently late in his decline. The floor still slanted toward the front. That might not have been so strange, but the laminated paneling on one side of the room was oriented to the slanting floor, not to vertical. The piece where the overhead door had been was more-or-less finished with two off-square slabs of Flintkote. It took several tubes of caulk to stay warm that winter, because there was a quarter-inch gap at the bottom of the windward wall.

The closest this poor guy ever got to being a carpenter was singing along to Close To You. :eek:

When we bought this house, the owner threw in the three “European Oak” cabinets that were in the family room. When we tried to move them, we discovered that the walls hadn’t been painted behind them. Also, once we got them away from the walls we got a good look at the power cables (the cabinets had lights in them), and found that they had been cut and rejoined with all the wires left exposed. Scary!

Mum and Dad found several timber railway sleepers buried in their front lawn. Why? Your guess is as good as mine.

My grandfather, God bless him, acquired a hot glue gun at some point in his life and fell deeply in love with the thing. After he died and my mother moved into his old house, we found that Grandpa had discovered hot glue was easier than drilling holes and using screws. The Water-Pik was hot-glued to the wall over the bathroom sink. The rails for the sliding glass shower doors were hot-glued to the bathtub. Chair legs and cracks in furniture had been hot-glued. His vice was hot-glued to his workbench. I can just picture him roaming the house in the wee hours of the morning, hot glue gun in hand, searching for something, ANYTHING, to hot-glue.

Reading this thread makes my own amateur-hour home repairs look good by comparison. :slight_smile:

No real surprises here, though my wife was upset that she didn’t discover that the beautiful kitchen cabinets were actually just refaced until after we’d bought the house. She’s already got plans to tear out the faux cabinets and replace 'em someday.

Feh. Don’t get me started. The newspaper-and-cardboard glued to the beadboard springs to mind.

The previous owner of my sister’s house didn’t want to pay for extra phone jacks and an internet jack for his basement workshop, so he did it himself, and very badly. Where the phoneline came into the house in the basement, he added some kind of old, obsolete piece of telephone splitter - a big chunk of plastic and wires with a metal cover - that hung out of the wall in what was basically a storage room when my sister moved in.

The new lines that split off from this doohickey ran around this storage room, along the half-wall ledge that many basements from house of that age have, up the corner of the walls, across the corner of the ceiling, underneath the drop-ceiling tiles in the hallway, into the workshop room, and again around the corners and ledge. I don’t know if his new phone jacks or internet jack ever worked, because they didn’t when my sister moved in.

My sister had me and my father go down to help her fix up the house after she bought it. The only way we could really clean up the mess of phone lines in that end of the basement was to cut them all down. Although my sister didn’t mind (she would have liked to have had a phone connection in the former workshop, which became a bedroom), she was more interested in getting a clearer phone connection for the lines that did work.

So, she called the phone company, who sent a guy over. The only part of the previous owner’s phone high-jinks that me and my father left was the old phone box that hung out of that one room’s wall. The phone guy quickly pointed out all the now-neutered jacks that were illegally installed, and when he saw the phone box he was floored.

Aside from compromising the quality of the connection, the guy said that, because of what had been done, the phone company had no responsibility to fix any of my sister’s phone problems. What the previous owner had done had basically nullified the contract with the phone company which included free servicing of connection problems.

Fortunately, the phone guy and the company realized that my sister had had nothing to do with it, and bent the rules to fix the problems the previous owner’s fiddling had caused, without charge and without penalty. It didn’t hurt that my sister is a friendly, lovable sort. All the maintenance guys who she had to bring in easily fell into quasi-flirtatious banter with her. I tell you, everyone loves her!

Although there were quite a few other peculiarities with the house, the only other one I can think of off the top of my head was the fact that the electric heaters in the storage room and the former workshop were controlled by one thermostat, which was in the storage room. The storage room has since become a bedroom like the former workshop. If those rooms happen to be occupied at the same time, the occupants will have to negotiate an agreement on room temperature.

Oh, yeah! The workshop. Turning it into a bedroom took forever. The floor was covered in two layers of laminate, and the concrete floor beneath it wasn’t put in properly - it was somewhat porous. Though there may have never been flooding in the basement, enough dampness got through the concrete to slightly damage the baseboards around the perimeter of the room.

Also, the former owner was a smoker, but his wife refused to let him smoke anywhere in the house. At least until he put a fan and vent into the workshop’s ceiling to supposedly suck the smoke outside. It may have been someone successful in that respect, but where all the guy’s toolboxes and equipment had been sitting on the shelving units that were screwed across all three walls of the room, there were wonderful light grey silhouettes, surrounded by much darker walls, obviously the victim of cigarette smoke discoloration. It took many coats of paint to cover up the patchwork stains, and ever more just to cover up the smell of the room.

Shifting the spotlight onto my own family’s questionable renovations, my father, in replacing the washers in our upstairs sink faucets, somehow managed to reverse the direction needed to turn on and off one of the faucets. He’s since put a whole new faucet set in, but for a long time, in order to turn on both the hot and cold water, you had to turn the faucets into each other. And these were simply round knob faucets, not the modern handle ones which are meant to turn in opposite directions.

Back to my sister’s house, in her main bathroom the shower was added onto the bathtub, like many older homes eventually had done. And, like many older homes, the bathtub was right under the bathroom window. So, the wooden-framed bathroom window was in the shower. :rolleyes: Though my sister’s managed to replace most of the older windows in the house, I believe this window is still just covered with that stretched plastic covering you put on with a hairdryer.

The plastic has held up pretty good, but it’s pretty spotty. Of course, even though the window is out of view from any neighbors, this spottiness does provide a further level of comfort for a showerer. Also in the shower, however, in a fan to the outside, for moisture extraction. Unfortunately, it never worked very good and wasn’t very draft proof. But, besides the draft, it also let in a ton of flies in the spring. This fan is also sealed in plastic, on the inside and outside.

So, my sister, of course, needed a new fan for the bathroom. So, we got my cousin, the amateur electrician to help my father out. They had to climb into the very tight attic space above the bathroom (the house has a very flat roof; not truly appropriate for this region, but that’s another story) to put in a ceiling fan and hook it up to the former fan’s switch my the light switch.

However, for some reason, they found it easier to attach new fan to the same switch as the light (while simply cutting the wires to the old fan). So, any time you go to the bathroom, for no matter what, when you turn on the light, the fan automatically turns on as well. And, of course, you have to know which switch to switch, since one of them now does nothing.

Anyhoo, I’ve rambled on long enough. And, looking at the time, I’m not sure I’ll be able to get this message to post at the moment. Hopefully it will, but I’ll save and paste to a text file first…

Hrm, we lived in the same house most of my life, a home started in the late 1800s and the “new” part was added in the 1920s. It was fun every time we had to make repairs or tear down the interior to rebuild/configure it.

My favorite creative fixes included running a copper hot water pipe from the water heater (in the laundry room) through my room, along the floor, and over to the kitchen sink.

One friend who bought a house went to fix a leaking master bathroom shower head. Her husband couldn’t get it loose, so she yanked … and pulled most of the tiled shower down.

Turns out the wall behind the shower tile had been broken or changed in someway by the previous owner (his renters had broken something) and when he repaired it, he used standard drywall behind the tile repair, instead of water resistant greenboard or wonder board.

The house I’m in now was built in 1942 and was completely restored and upgraded by the previous owner. Aside from hating some of his style choices, (poor quality kitchen cabinets, wallpaper and a glass shower door in one bathroom – which I just removed last weekend) , I really haven’t come across anything that fits this thread. He did some very good quality work.

The house I lived in previously was built in 1941 (it’s across the street) and the landlady’s boyfriend had done a number of things, much to my amusement… (my apologies for the length of this post, but the house is truly a train wreck.)

• He built a deck out of half of the front yard. First, he used nails to hold it together, rather than sturdy wood screws, so pieces/parts would fall off in my hands as I was cleaning fallen leaves off. Next, he used pressure treated cypress, which is water and rot resistant… but not water and rot proof. Neither the boyfriend nor the landlady had ever applied a stain or any sort of water sealing to the thing, so it was a rotting mess when I moved in. Completely useless for sitting and hanging out. Further, this moron allowed no drainage whatsoever. On one side of the house the water drips off the roof, down on to the deck, and runs… straight into the foundation on the north wall. Which is crumbling and rotting as well. (1940’s cinder block – it’s like gypsum and just crumbles in your hands.) The whole thing needs to be ripped out and replaced.

• He hard-wired the house so that he could put speakers in every room. You can have music wherever you are in the house. I’d be surprised if the entire house (1 BR 1 BA) was 750 sq. ft. Completely unnecessary and most assuredly unsafe wiring to boot.

• He put up globe fixtures wherever lights were. Wired them himself. I counted something like 8 globes in the kitchen alone. Either than man was breast fed far too long or not nearly long enough because he seemed to have an obsession with globe shaped objects.

• I was vacuuming one day and as I turned off the vacuum, I noticed sparks flying out of the outlet it was plugged into. :eek: I immediately called in the electrician who informed me that all the outlets in the house were backwards: the ground wire was connected to the outlet and the hot wire was used as the “ground”. Also, on that outlet, there was no box: just bare wires (which were sparking) nestled lovingly against bare wood. He closed up the outlet, forbade me to use it and said he couldn’t even fix it. He ended up coming back and having to completely re-wire the living room so I’d have some place to plug in lamps. Otherwise, there was no light in the room and no overhead light. He said he was surprised that I hadn’t electrocuted myself, and that the house hadn’t burned to the ground. Among other reasons, this is why I moved out and bought the restored house!

• Oh, but there’s more. He put in a skylight in the kitchen. Which still leaks. The landlady’s solution? Have a roofer cover the skylight with clear Visqueen plastic, nailed down to the shingles. The plastic was ripped off by falling tree branches within a year. We get some serious storms here during hurricane season.

• When I moved in, there was a 8" diameter hole in one wall where, apparently, an old oil heater had some sort of vent to outside. The previous tenant was using the hole as a “cat door”. I made the landlady seal it. She put a couple bricks in the hole and proceeded to fill it with The Stuff – that spongy, foaming stuff that expands to fill and seal holes. I sanded it flat, applied joint compound and painted over it but the current tenants have no idea about the sturdy quality of our “repair” job.

• The landlady’s boyfriend was going to build her a spice rack that was recessed into the wall. When I moved in, there was a spice rack shaped hole in one kitchen wall. Again, we filled it in with The Stuff, but not before I found some tiny Kuchina dolls (came with the house) and stuck 'em in the holes. Now the house really is an archeological dig because if anyone ever gets back into that space, they’ll find my little Anasazi cave dweller village buried in the wall! :smiley:

• There was a horrible leak in the kitchen ceiling. After a couple contractors came over, scratched their heads and left, we finally found a roofer who diagnosed the problem correctly. When the fireplace was removed (a damn shame) they left the chimney in place. Which was made out of the previously mentioned highly porous cinder blocks from the 1940’s. It would rain, and the rain would soak into the chimney, saturating the blocks. A couple days later, all that water would leach out of my ceiling on to the kitchen floor. The roofer had to tear the chimney down to below roof level, then he patched over the roof. So the chimney is still there, a haven for cockroaches, and any other bug who cares to take up residence there. At least that leak was fixed.

• All of the cabinets and the shower stall were homemade out of cypress or cedar. Which the landlady refused to allow me to finish and seal. (I didn’t want to paint it.) So that attracts these icky huge nasty brown spiders which were all over the house. The place also had rats.

I’m so glad I don’t live there any more. I was talking to the current tenant last weekend and he agreed the place is a worthless POS (and his girlfriend HATES the spiders). If the landlady ever wanted to sell her property, I’d buy it, tear down the entire house and deck and start completely over from bare dirt.

Dogzilla, if you do buy it, save the cedar and do seal it. Will look lovely.

Your post reminded me of something we did to the 1800’s part of the house: refinished the bathroom. We tore up the floor, replaced all the old lead(!) pipes with copper or PVC, then laid down a nice thick floorboard of 3/4 inch plywood.

We then took a hammer and nails and put the date on the floorboard with holes … but 1887 instead of 1987. We then filled the ‘holes’ with plastic paint to confuse future refurbers even more. Then covered the shebang with lino.

One cool thing about refurbing the house was pulling up the 1920s lino … it was TOUGH and underneath it was this really cool paper between the lino and the floor (wooden). Pretty cool, I’d never seen paper used in a house before, especially between the floor and the linoelum.

The front deck/porch on my house seemed to be leaning a bit, so we poked around a bit, checking out the support posts. It turns out that the posts rested on…nothing. They ended at the dirt, no foundation of any kind, no cement, no rock, no…just nothing. As the house and porch roof is one continuous plane, we had to prop up the roof and rebuild a deck underneath it with a proper foundation this time. Much cursing was done.

Other, smaller, stuff has been found but that one just baffled me. What were they thinking?

(DIY Disasters and bad thoughts about previous owners - I could write a book on this one!) Our flat was apparently redone (electrics, plumbing, everything) some years ago by the previous owner’s brother, who we’ve nicknamed “mastic man”.

  • The windows were masticked into the frames, and the frames glued and masticked to the walls.
  • The radiators were masticked onto the pipes. (e.g. the plumber found one joint that was two join pieces tight together, with a half-inch long bit of pipe inside held together by mastic stuffed inside the join at both sides, instead of welded.)
  • The windowsills were masticked to the plaster.
  • The carpet was masticked to floor tiles that in turn were masticked to the concrete.
  • Two door hinges held on by mastic alone.
  • A powerpoint glued to the wall, not screwed (apparently he felt one was needed directly above the sink)
  • The letterbox, the skirtingboard, parts of the ceiling, all held on by mastic.

We found out (when the plumber screamed - fortunately he wasn’t hurt) that the place was miswired and the earth circuit not only wasn’t earthed, it was live. When the electrician had a look at it he said that under the right circumstances it was possible sections of the walls would be live, which was why my flatmate was complaining of electric shocks.

I like to say most of its fixed now, but its getting to the point I’m dreading doing any more DIY because we don’t know what we’ll find.