Having a fine needle aspiration on a thryoid nodule. How scared should I be?

Another “never had one” person chiming in now that lots of people with directly-relevant experience have posted. This in particular caught my eye.

I had amniocentesis with my first pregnancy. I was terrified of that much as you are of your own procedure. I demanded local anesthesia where the doc was going to do the needle. She said “But that hurts as much as the amnio needle”. Well a) I doubt it, and b) I KNEW what novocaine felt like going into the skin, I did NOT know what an amnio needle felt like. I opted for “the devil I knew”.

Of course that didn’t numb everything, and it did feel weird as hell (if not actually painful) when the needle went through something inside. But, having the local on board helped set my mind at ease. I’m pretty sure it made it easier for me to stay put and not move.

So, for your situation: if you think a local might help get rid of the fear of pain, you have every right to ask them to do so.

Good luck tomorrow!!

Hey all. Thanks to everyone for the good thoughts and the advice. I had the biopsy this morning. After not getting much sleep, and the tension over the past week, I’m so tired I can barely see to type!

To get right to the point (ha, pun), the actual process was very minor, as far as pain goes.

Firstly, to answer my own question (which all of you did, I’m just confirming!), I was allowed to breathe, but couldn’t swallow.

After I walked in, I spoke with the endocrinologist who was doing the procedure. (Actually she and another endo were both involved; she did the sonogram, I think, while the guy used the needle–well, actually, they passed the jobs back and forth due to the different angles of each needle stick.)

I mentioned my anxiety issues (and took an Ativan on top of my usual Xanax, not that it did much)–honestly all day I was only about a “3” on a scale of 1 - 10, I’m not sure why I was so calm. I think my having begun to expect a cancer diagnosis put my fear of a needle prick in perspective. It’s kinda made me sanguine, to a certain degree.

While I was lying on the table, it was funny, they were talking in heavy “industry speak” about what they were seeing, but I’ve done so much research that it was pretty easy to pick up “isoechoic” and “hypoechoic halo” and so on.

I didn’t ask for the local, though I think you were brave and strong in requesting one yourself, Mama Zappa). Fortunately for me, the needle felt no worse when going in than a blood draw, and I’ve had dozens of them–admittedly, not in my throat, but the feeling was similar. Some were actually worse when the nurse couldn’t find a good vein in my arm and had to go digging around.

The only slightly painful/uncomfortable part came when they were rapidly moving the needle up and down within the nodule, which I believe they do to chop up the nodule matter so it could be sucked up for the sample At that point I could feel the pressure and a sort of dull pain, which–weirdly–radiated to my jaw and ears a bit. But it lasted maybe twenty seconds for each sample they took. (They did four.) Then I got a Band-Aid and was free to go.

BTW, curiously, when I came in the endocrinologist sat me down to explain the procedure (which I’d pretty much already memorized!) she was telling me how most nodules are benign, yadda yadda, and I said, well, but mine has some fairly typical signs of malignancy, doesn’t it? I mentioned the microcalcifications in particular. She said “they might be microcalcifications, they might not. I really think you’ll be okay.”

So that’s two endos (this one and my own doctor) who’ve brushed off the punctate echologic foci/microcalcification stuff, which seems odd. They must be trying to soften the blow, maybe. I don’t mind that my regular endo gave me reassurance when she originally got the ultrasound results–it meant I had 4.5 weeks of not being miserable with dread. But from here on out I don’t want too much sugar-coating.

Oh! One big disappointment is that they no longer have a cytopathologist on hand to look at the slides immediate and judge whether there’s enough useful matter there for them to examine. So I guess it’s possible I might need to do this again. If so, at least now I know the pain really isn’t bad, at least not with competent docs.

Now that I’m home I really don’t feel much pain, as I said. I could take a Tylenol but it doesn’t even really rise to the level where I think I need one.

If/when I hear any results next week, I’ll let you all know. I’m sure you’re fascinated by the essays I’m writing about my thyroid! :slight_smile: But seriously, I owe you all my warmest gratitude for your guidance, experiences, information and support. This would’ve been even harder without you all.

I’m delighted it was as easy as it was, choie.

You are in good hands! Waiting is no fun, so I’m sorry you have to do that, but maybe knowing that the choie-participation part of the festivities is over will help.

Thanks for the update! I was thinking of you.

I’m glad it went well for you.

It’s easy for me to say, but try to put this out of your head for a bit. You have done what you needed to do for now. Now rest up. There’s nothing to do or think about until you get your results.

Glad it’s overwith and you handled it! Crossing fingers for you that the results are good!

Thank you very very very much for your warm support and intelligent advice, guys. I heard back from the lab, which said the results were “normal.” I’ll need to have a follow-up ultrasound after six months, or maybe she said annually, to be honest I was too busy hearing the peals of victory bells going off in my head. But I know she said “normal,” so… that’s got to be the best outcome, right?

Is there any reason I should contact my own endocrinologist and ask her if the tests were double-checked or anything? I assume NYP-Weill Cornell knows its stuff, but I know there are false negative results. What do you experienced guys think?

But OMG I can’t believe how exhausted I am now that the tension of the past few weeks has been released. Every day waiting for the results got worse, because each day that past meant that it was more likely that I’d be getting the call soon.

And now I can actually plan for that writing retreat that’s just a week and a half away. I can buy luggage and clothes and, y’know, a train ticket/hotel room! (Yes I kinda put things off there.)

Heavy sigh. Thanks again you wonderful, helpful, supportive people. :slight_smile:

I’m glad that’s over for you.

I’m guessing that they don’t routinely get second opinions on the slides, and that they don’t need to. The follow up ultrasounds are the double-checking. They don’t really need to see what is happening to your benign nodule; they just want to make sure it behaves as the FNA advertised. If it changes significantly over time, they may want to repeat the biopsy.

Follow ups can start at 6 or 12 months, but should be stretched out to longer intervals (and eventually ended) if the nodule stays stable. Also, small differences in measurement between exams are par for the course.

Hooray!

I’m delighted!

Glad to hear the good news. I think there would be no problem with a follow-up call or appointment with your endocrinologist, to ask for more information as to what the biopsy means. If the nodules are not cancerous, then is there anything else that they might be, and does the endocrinologist want any kind of regular follow-up?

My endocrinologist explained that my nodules were the result of benign transient bleeding within my thyroid. No treatment was necessary, and it eventually reversed itself and shrunk back; I just had a blood-engorged organ sticking in my throat for a while. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but I did wonder if anyone was going to ask, “is that a goiter on your neck, or are you just glad to see me?”