Okay - uglier than I thought, after checkingn out a couple of preseason games. Think I will try to forget last year ever happened and start with a clean slate.
Keeping David Wilson in 3rd, Stevan Ridley in 4th.
If anyone wants to make a last-minute trade, I have the 3rd pick in the 2nd round and am willing to trade down. Looking to move me up from the 12 spot in the first round.
Okay, going over my list, I have the following keepers for everyone:
4th and 19: nobody
Baltimore Weirdos: Andy Dalton
Crabby Hermits: nobody
Exploding Pancakes: Alfred Morris
Fightin’ Quakers: David Wilson, Stevan Ridley
Hamlet: nobody
HungryHungryHarus: nobody
Munch: AJ Green, CJ Spiller
No Use For a Name: Victor Cruz
Omnipotents: Greg Olsen, Pierre Garcon
Ottoman Empire: Jimmy Graham
RNATB: Josh Freeman, Mendenhall, Mike Williams
Spiritus Mundane: nobody
Varlos’ Zzzzzz: nobody
That’s quite a short list of keepers, isn’t it? What would you guess is the league average number of keepers every year? That barely affects the top of the draft - only Morris, Green, and Graham would likely be top picks.
The 2 round penalty basically ensures that. The only first round grade players who can be kept are the ones that didn’t have a first or second round grade last year. For the sake of comparison, here is the list of kept players from 2012:
2011:
And 2010:
Apparently when I won the league in 2011 I did it without any keepers. Go me!
Team Total Keepers
9 Inch Neils (RNATB) 3
Off Constantly 2
Fourth & Nineteen 3
Fightin’ Quakers 2
Moridwon (Hamlet) 3
Exploding Pancakes 1
Crabby Hermits 0
No Use For A Name 1
Varlos’ Zzzzzzz 0
HungryHungryHaruspex 2 (forgot D. Thomas and Nelson)
Baltimore Weirdos 1
Spiritus Mundane 0
Omnipotents 2
Ottoman Empire 1
I missed the whole discussion on trading “keeper slots”. I find myself fundamentally agreeing with **senorbeef **on thsi one, but I would frame it slightly differently. I think everyone understands that these trades are beneficial for the players making the exchange. I think everyone also understands that there is no down side for teh players making the exchange. Since draft position is clearly a zero sum game, that means the advatage for the teams making the trade is realized by creating a disadvantage to every other team in the league. This makes such trades essentially unbalanced, not between the teams making the trades but between the traders and teh rest of the league. I had never really given it much thought until I caught up on this discussion, but the analysis seems pretty straightforward.
Given that, I officially object to all exchanges of “keeper slots” on the grounds that they are unbalanced.
Unoficially, it isn’t that big a deal to me and I will bow to the will of themajority (or the commissioner) and just have fun wit the game.
One question though. I vaguely remember a limit on the number of years you can keep the same player, but I’m positive. Looking at RNATB’s list, this will be the third time I’ll be keeping McFadden. Am I misremembering the rule or confusing this with another league?
You remember correctly. I thought I double checked the “kept last year” players, but that one seems to have slipped through. Sorry - you don’t get to keep him. Did that screw up any of your draft slot changes? We have the keeper rules on post #1 in this thread. Damn - I’m sorry I missed that.
