headmaster walker, I pit thee

[GorillaMan]

@DrDeth

He’s like the dude that rubs the nose of the bronze lions in London. When asked why he did that, the dude said it was to keep wild lions away from England. When they replied “but there hasn’t been a wild lion in England within recorded time” the dude replied “see, it works”.

You’re very right.

“That’s specious reasoning, Dad.”
“Thank you, Lisa.”

[The_Mad_Hermit]

…and I was wondering who was walking the headmaster?

Of course, who pays for all this testing? It’s not free.

[wonky]

@tomndebb

If the only way to discover that a person has abused drugs is to test their blood, it would seem to be a fairly persuasive argument that their recreational drug use is not actually interfering with their work performance. On the other hand, if his or her work performance is suffering, companies ought to throw 'em, out (or offer drug rehab) regardless what chemicals are in the blood.

I think most employee testing programs are probably urine tests. Just an fyi.

I agree that the random tests don’t make much sense. At my workplace, there are infrequent random tests, plus testing for anyone involved in a workplace accident. The latter makes sense; the former doesn’t.

[The_Flying_Dutchman]

@DrDeth

Walker- dude. You were a bloody Headmaster. Thus, you should know about something called “the scientific method”. :dubious: Thereby, unless you have high postitive tests *before * the programme (which is impossible, as they didn’t test before) then the reason for the low positive tests may just means the kids don’t do a lot of drugs. Of course, Walker may also believe that the fact the there’s a bronze lion in Londons whose nose is very shiny causes the lack of *Panthera Leo * roaming the British Isles. :rolleyes:

I wish I can remember one just to cite it, but there have been many studies proving the obvious. I don’t know about 11 year olds, but there are a hell of a lot more 14 year olds doing grass than 1 in 600. I don’t need a study to believe that.

I am not saying all random drug testing is evil. For example, DEA agents should likely be subjected to the damn things. But 11yo? :eek:

I think all drug testing is an invasion of privacy. However I don’t believe children should have the same rights , but their guardians do and if they feel they have an extra tool in monitoring the mental health of their charges then I’m all for it.

[DrDeth]

@The Flying Dutchman

I wish I can remember one just to cite it, but there have been many studies proving the obvious. I don’t know about 11 year olds, but there are a hell of a lot more 14 year olds doing grass than 1 in 600. I don’t need a study to believe that.
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Perhaps in all of England. But the studies we found here were about kids who had tried pot once in the last year- very much different that used recently. And, a small private school in Wales may or may not have the same demographics. Then again, the sample size was flawed as parents had to give permission. Lastly, the kids had enough warning to temporarily stop toking, just for long enough to test negative. In other words, his vaunted score in meaningless.