Heh. Moussaoui on day five: "This isn't as much fun as I thought it might be..."

If he’s in a Supermax, no Bubba, alas.

Frankly, I was quite pleased with his sentence. Giving him a life sentence* was the best solution on a number of counts – of which denying him martyrdom was probably the most satisfying, but proving that American jurors really can set aside personal feelings and deliver a fair verdict based on the law and evidence is the most important.

I hope he lives a long, long life and has lots of time to repent of his arrogance and erroneous assumptions about our justice system.

*Or multiples, to be technically accurate, but since he only has one life, it’s effectively just one.

Y’know, on reviewing the article, does anyone else feel like he should be treated for some sort of mental illness, not locked up?

Please be aware I was not following the case with any great degree of interest, but: what exactly was he convicted of?

It makes me very happy to say you spelled it wrong. :slight_smile: (That first ‘e’ was unnecessary.)

Although his wacky neighbor will be Tim Kaczynski.

Yep the man is a loon. Medical treatment might have been a better option. Still, you have to say the lad just was doing all he could to avoid that.

He was convicted of being a member of a terrorist group (which he seems to have been guilty of) and of not telling the FBI about the 9-11 plot when he was arrested for the first charge. It seems that he did not really know about the 9-11 plot (although he said he did).

He probably was really factually guilty of the first charge, and perhaps not of the second.

Nonetheless, off to the Tower with the silly little man.

I doubt he’ll ever see anyone again that doesn’t have a guard uniform on, so Bubba is not someone he needs to fear.

Or maybe even Ted Kaczynski.

He was convicted of, basically, not telling the FBI when questioned in the weeks prior to 9/11/2001, of the conspiracy to fly those airplanes into their various targets. Which, I believe, is a variation of the “Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire” statute.

What, they locked up his brother, too?

:smack:

At least this supports the ‘after a few years, people will forget who he is’ idea proposed in another thread.

I know that this is trite here on the Dope, but that really isn’t funny.

Also, after these prisoners in “super-max” age a few years will they have a chance to move to a lower-security prison?

Not the political/terrorist set.

They are there for the longest of long terms, and will likely be buried out back of the prison, oh, 50 years or so from now.

See! just like I always told y’all, “America, not so bad!” Now will y’all belive me?

Still, let’s not get too giddy. Let the poor bloke revel undisturbed in his new delusions, but (strictly entre nous) we must know better then to let him have a new trial. Our justice system is far from perfect. Much remains to be done. Poor chap came within three (3) votes from Death Penalty. Next time, he might not be that lucky. What if next time he gets it? Imagine what that might do to his newly aquired faith in America? Most importantly, can we afford that? I mean, we have too few true friends left in the world as it is.

Also, by all acoounts US prisons suck. However, we have a few zoos on par with the best in the world: spacious, humane and all that. We can put him in the good zoo. The one where animals have a front office, open for observation, and a back room, where they can retire if they wish not to be disturbed. Must be very comfortable back there. Why, last time I went to one of those zoos, hardly any animal was in sight; all retired into the back rooms, watching TVs or fornicating, I guess. And there I was, after spending a small fortune on tickets for the missus and the brood, with no animals visible for miles. Also, the beer was not so good.

Why is the nebbishy guy from 80s-era Saturday Night Live in prison?

In some way yes. He is very clearly a mentally ill person. But I can not blame the US for putting him in prison, he was also sincerely trying to commit terrorism - it is just he was not good at it. But thank God the Americans did not kill him and make him a martyr, it was better to see this happen. In fact, instead of being angry and outraged at Moussaoie now, he should be used for propaganda, or his statements.

In some way yes. He is very clearly a mentally ill person. But I can not blame the US for putting him in prison, he was also sincerely trying to commit terrorism - it is just he was not good at it. But thank God the Americans did not kill him and make him a martyr, it was better to see this happen. In fact, instead of being angry and outraged at Moussaoie now, he should be used for propaganda, or his statements.

And the virgins is not a bad translation, the word is always understood to mean virgin although there is some European who made a theory that it means grape, from maybe Aramaic. However, I have read heavy criticism of the author’s work from european linguists who said it was badly done and not correct. Of course religious Muslims never gave it any regard.

Isn’t that blinda Santa Claus dude in the Colorado supermax too?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Kazurinsky

He was on SNL- doesn’t that mean he deserves it?

MamaTiger
Yes, I too hope he has the time to repent his arrogance and hostility to the American people and its way of life.
I’m just wondering if he will find the time (considering his “busy” schedule):
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - Nothing
Thursday, May 11, 2006 - Nothing
Friday, May 12, 2006 - Nothing
Saturday, May 13, 2006 - Nothing
Hmmm, I’m detecting a pattern there.
From what I’ve heard of those maximum security prisons, that is precisely what you can do.
Wow, that is a creepy thought about living your life in the same bland existence as the day before and the only thing to which to look forward is your own death.

He wasn’t even convicted as he plead guilty to all counts.

Well technically he was convicted. Granted the conviction is based on a plea of guilty not a jury finding of guilt, but it is still considered a conviction.

The typical wording by a judge is “Based on your plea, I find you guilty and sentence you to furthermore based on this conviction you may not [Y] (Y could be own a fire arm, go near a school enter the country etc.)”

What I am saying is I don’t see the point of your nitpick.