Yes, clearly. Shodan is being the biggest prick on this thread. You’re right to focus on him for his tone and behavior. :rolleyes:
The oath of office is about stuff you will do in the future. How do you perjure yourself about something that hasn’t happened yet?
If you have a better nominee, at least have the guts to name names.
Doesn’t he teach tae kwon do in the midwest somewhere (maybe texas)?
Or am I thinking of another poster?
The oath of office only pertains to what you did before you took the oath? :rolleyes:
I dunno, I always assumed it was a reference to the murderously insane ranting AI from System Shock. Seemed fitting.
We could fiddle with that oath. Make it about past practices, put some retrospective and some prospective words in there, put an ejector seat in that oval office. Make America great again.
Were you demaninding facts of me or are you saying that I am being rude for demanding facts of you?
I don’t really disagree with any of the above.
This thread literally asks for defenses of Trump.
The fact of the matter is that you are irrelevant. I can predict your political behavior no matter what the facts are. You are effectively the flip side of all the right wing folks you purport to detest.
It’s not all invented. Biden’s son Hunter is an embarassment. It’s a small wonder that he and Trump aren’t whoring buddies. It sounds horrible but the wrong Biden son died young.
First, I’m pretty sure the aid got released 2 days after the investigations into the aid began.
Second, do you understand the difference between illegal and unconstitutional?
Do you understand that it’s not illegal just because you say it is? He has an excuse. I don’t find it particularly credible but his excuse was that he was concerned about corruption.
Of course it can be trifled with. It can certainly be delayed a couple of months if the president thinks it’s all just going into the pockets of corrupt government officials (not saying that’s what was happening but that’s their excuse).
Much of foreign policy is extortion. Some of it is permissible, some of it is not.
Once again, not enough to force a Republican to impeach a Republican president.
Willfully? I can’t respond to every demented sidebar rant you throw out there. WTF does gerrymandering have to do with this conversation? Should we talk about who REALLY authored the shakespeare sonnets next?
Wow. After all the shit you called me, you are getting the vapors at being called a left wing nut?
I don’t know if you can see this but I’d really like to know why you think Trump was not lawfully elected? Did he cheat during the debates like Hillary? Did his party try to throw the nomination his way and undermine other republican candidates like the DNC did with Hillary? Or are you just one of those guys that cries that it’s not fair whenever you lose?
So I don’t really read these boards enough but is margin mentally unstable or something? Because this is really starting to sound mentally unstable. Sri Lanka? Was something I wrote a non sequitor? Or is this just what SDMB liberals look like these days?
Trump may be evil. He may even be a traitor. But how is defending him hypocritical when they are asked to present defenses of him?
Seriously. Is margin mentally unstable?
If you’re going to read the constitutionality of something so narrowlyu then, a standing army isn’t constitutionally approved either. Neither is a federal minimum wage or protection of abortion rights.
We have come a long way since anyone felt that government action had to be approved by the constitution. The general consensus is that the government canengage in behavior that isn’t prohibited by the constitution.
So is what Trump did prohibited by the constitution? Can you point to the part of the constitution that prohibits that behavior? As reprehensible as it is, where does he run afoul?
Ummm biblical? catastrophe?
“I see left wing nuts”
Was I being too coy? Margin has been a raging asshole way in excess of what Shodan has exhibited on this thread. Perhaps he is being given a pass because he is in fact mentally unstable and I never got the memo or perhaps it’s because this site is Arrakis for conservatives like Shodan and Disneyland for liberals like margin.
Work on your reading comprehension :rolleyes:
The government and the man are separate things. The President certainly does have room to go against the demands of Congress, within the course of his duties. And if that was the issue, you would have a point and I do take that, that is your point.
But I say that it is inconceivable to think that the writers of the Constitution empowered corruption nor that they ever thought that corruption would somehow be non-impeachable nor that there is some vague interpretation of the Constitution which one can expand to go, “Yup, corruption = Okay”.
Before even getting into any sort of textual or historical analysis, would that pass the smell test for you?
She’s a veteran who’s been treated for PTSD. A fact that Shodan takes great delight in mocking her for.
Shorter version: Go get fucked you sniveling piece of shit.
Not for me, but it does for the Republican congressmen.
Trump is making the argument that his request delay was not the result of HIS corruption but the result of UKRAINIAN corruption. I don’t believe it so if you would like to appoint me king, I would remove him and let Pence take his place. But it takes more than that to convince Republican congressmen to vote to impeach a Republican president especially in the current hyper partisan environment.
Fair enough. But I will note that you were previously saying “in your definition”. You’ve now switched that around to “Republicans in Congress’ actions”.
To quote:
It is unconstitutional. Whether the conviction will successfully be brought to fruition by the fucktards in Congress be as it may, it was an unconstitutional activity. And the fucktards are breaking their oaths if they fail to convict.
(I’ll also note that besides corruption, Congress also has the clear and Constitutional right to Oversight, and that is also in the impeachment writ.)
You just gotta remain faithful to that label, don’t ya? Just like the way you don’t support Republicans and it’s obviously a “Get Out of Hell Free” card you’re holding on to. If Trump does get shitcanned, you can say “See? I’m on the winning side! I’m one of you!” That’s such a transparent fucking hedge.
If this is a liberal echo chamber, how do you think it started? Do you think a bunch of liberal nogoodniks secretly email each other and agree to spam this message board with identical leftist creeds? What about you and other conservatives who share the same opinion? Are you a conservative echo chamber? “But I’m not a conservative. I’m a liberal who echoes conservative talking points/ I’m just like you and I see nothing wrong with sucking Trump’s cock.”
Quit insulting our intelligence. We haven’t bought your self-denial schtick ever.
At the risk of onerous derailing, darned if I can think of a less :eek:hivey:eek: site than this one. (Of this size).
Shit.
I meant to say odious, not onerous.
Fuck.
Foreign policy involves the goals and benefit of the country. Not the man in the foreign policy chair. Don’t you even try calling what Trump did “foreign policy”. It was selling out foreign policy.