Help me debunk this homeopathic woo that's found its way into my home.

So when you remove all the psychobabble and your desire to be proved correct, the homoepathic remedy is working.

No. Psychobabble is what explains the homeopathic remedy’s “working”.

I would’ve suggested clove oil in very small amounts (1 drop diluted in 3-5 drops of olive oil), as it’s a known numbing agent that’s safe for oral use. However, it doesn’t seem like the teething is that painful for the baby.

I suggest you read the thread before you post, it is Larry Mudd who is the one trying to explain why homeopathic medicine can’t work, and trying to go to great, almost comical lengths to do it. No one is trying to explain how it works.

Even funnier because his wife did the simplest thing, tried it and it worked.

Clove oil should only be used for up to three days, though, because it can be irritating to gums and mucus membranes. It’s a “hold you over 'till you get to the dentist” remedy for tooth pain, not a long term solution.

As for homeopathic teething tablets and drops, it’s clear to me that for some parent infant diads, they do “work”, it’s just that you have to accept their definition of the term “work”. They do tend to make people happier at teething time. Whether it’s a placebo effect for mom, a distraction for the kiddo or sugar tastes interesting (for the tablets), it makes teething less of a pain in the ass. That the same could be said for a bottle of water would merely indicate that water also “works” to ease teething.

Do they have a chemically active ingredient? Nope. But they do what they claim, which is to ease teething. It’s not much of a claim, but they fulfill it.

Correlation is not causation!

Just because you can’t explain how something works does not equate to it not working.

Just because you can explain how something can’t work does not equate to it not working.

One must be able to separate reality from their beliefs of how reality should be. This is where questioning and not blind acceptance comes in and learning for oneself begins.

Yeah, no kidding. So in a case like this, you would have to eliminate all other possible causes for the baby “getting better.” Perhaps the baby would have got better all on his own without the medicine. Perhaps there is a placebo effect at work via the mother’s reactions, such that anything would be effective, even plain water.

So you’d have to get a very large group of babies, all around the age of teething, and you’d have to randomly assign the parents to use different teething remedies and note the effectiveness. Some might do nothing at all, some could use the homeopathic drops, some could use infant Tylenol, some would use a cool washcloth on the gums, etc. After you’d collected all of the data and analyzed it, you’d be able to see trends emerge. Did the homeopathic drops genuinely prove more effective than simply plain water, or nothing at all?

Absent a study like that, you’ve got no proof and no evidence. Just one mother who is convinced that the remedy she paid $18 for is effective, on a baby that wasn’t really suffering that much in the first place.

For all you scientifically minded people here is a explanation of how homeopathy could work.

I am not saying this is how it worked for the OP, but just to give a example:

1 - Baby is in pain from teething, mom’s heart goes out to her infant
2 - it is mom’s love for baby that is moving of her heart and love is God
3 - So God knows and wants to solve this
4 - God looks at situation and sees a solution, needs to get baby to chew on her blanket, which was washed with a certain detergent which would also numb pain
5 - God sees that this ‘homeopathic remedy’ has a certain taste that will encourage the infant to chew on the blanket
6 - God motivated the heart of the mom to try this ‘homeopathic remedy’ and she does, infant chews blanket, and detergent substance relieves pain.

Then you have people trying to prove that the ‘homeopathic remedy’ can’t work, discouraging the mom and trying to cause unneeded pain for the infant.

Now again I’m not saying this is the case with the OP, just a form of how such a remedy could work and bypass all scientific findings.

I am also stating this because I believe God is indeed active in out lives, guiding us even if we don’t believe in Him, trying to lead us to a live with less pain and helping others, what is stopping this is people without knowleage of God’s ways who try to impose their will on others.

You are the one who is blindly accepting, based on your belief in homeopathy. You keep saying it worked, but there is no proof of that. If you ate a grape the morning before you got into a car accident, you wouldn’t blame the accident on the grape, would you?

Sure, mom gave the baby the drops, and the baby got better, but that doesn’t prove that the drops caused the reduction in symptoms. Presumably, the baby drank and ate numerous other things, why couldn’t these have caused the relief? Pain tends to come in cycles, getting worse and better for seemingly no reason at all. Do you leave any room to believe that something else caused the reduction in symptoms?

I don’t know how else to explain this to you.

I challenge this statement, why do you need to eliminate them, the infant is soothed, that was the goal and it was accomplished.

In other words, “magic!!!”

Yeah. I’ll stick with science, thanks.

If you want to prove that the drops are effective, you need to eliminate other factors that might also be at work. I just read your ridiculous “God did it!!” explanation a couple of posts up, so I now realize I am not having a conversation with a rational person. But IMO there is some value in being able to tell people, “These drops have no effect on their own. Their only effect will be in an imaginary deity possibly getting you to do something else that actually will be effective. So you should probably just do that other thing instead, rather than wasting $18 on these drops.”

Read my above post, the cure came from the love of mom for her child, the method was divinely guided, how that happened, the steps I don’t know.

Now if you want to isolate the substance that’s a whole different situation.

So future parents can choose remedies that are proven to work, insuring the best possible care for their babies.

That was never stated as a goal or a desire.

You have no proof of this! You just proposed a possible way it COULD work.

I propose homeopathy works like this:

  1. Aliens from outside the milky way galaxy commune with Elvis’s spirit.
  2. They decide who is in pain and who isn’t by playing games of checkers.
  3. Afterword they instill holy power into homeopathy juice.
  4. Baby is all better!

Doesn’t that sound crazy to you? It should, I just made it up. There is exactly the same amount of proof for my theory, as there is for yours. That is to say, none.

I suggest you find out what rational means, but yes one of us is not being rational here - and yes no point continuing.

I’ll just leave this here for you:

Water is Love!!! (I have trouble though with God is Quackery!!!)

I need a new irony meter, the old one just exploded.