Help me find a College (pretty please?)

Help me find a college (please!)

This is very long, but if you feel like helping a fellow Doper out, I’ll be eternally grateful.

I am looking for a college to attend starting in the spring(january) or fall(august) semester of 2005. What follows is a longwinded ramble inspired by my dead-end searching the last couple weeks. I am hoping that the board, with it’s seemingly high number of intelligent college grads can help me out. If you want to suggest a school but it doesn’t meet all of my picky little demands, please do it anyway!

about me:

21 year old female, graduated HS in 2001, one year of College under my belt. It’s been two years since I left school (Maryland Institute College of Art for any Baltimore dopers). My interests include comic books (reading and making), movies (watching) and books of all kinds. I am also a sketchbook fiend, having just finished the 5th in a series that began on my last day at MICA. I have learned to really work in the last two years, juggling 40-hour weeks at the day job with running a business. After that, I think being able to spend all of my time on homework and related projects would be heavenly. Plus, I now have a drive to make something of myself in a way I never did before.

I did very well in school, graduating at the top of my High School class, and maintaining a decent GPA for my two semesters at MICA. I have always been good at passing classes by feeling out exactly what a teacher wants and playing to that, and I left MICA because I realized that I was wasting a chance at a perfectly good education by doing just that. I could see myself graduating after four years of hassle and expense with nothing to show for it.

Another reason I left was that my boyfriend and I lived off-campus (he came along with me from upstate NY) and found life in Baltimore incredibly dificult to deal with, cut off from the support structure of friends and family we were used to back home. In the end, it was impossible to justify our misery in light of my above misgivings.

In the two years since I left MICA, I have worked in two bakeries (I loved cake decorating!), with my mother in her management service for nonprofits (where I learned how to write grants and deal with boards in the stinking cess-heap that is the american 501©3), and currently work at a Salvation Army Thrift store (talk about a cess-heap!)
Apart from paying the bills, my boyfriend and I started a business from scratch (my semi-estranged father bankrolled it, saying that if we made the money back he’d be ahead, and if not it was better than giving it to a “snooty private school.”) Well, the business officially tanked a month ago, due to the loss of a third partner and a crummy local economy (watch out, Utica! Springfield is a town on the GROW!!) and I think I am ready to go to college again, for real this time.

What I want from a college:

I still want to major in Fine Arts, but not at an exclusively Arts college. One of my main goals in college is to get much better at both drawing and writing comics. I don’t really want to do a Sequential Art program, I’d rather cherry-pick among visual arts and writing/literature classes and put it together myself, but some explicitly comics-oriented classes would be a definite bonus. Another thing I want out of college is to learn Japanese, and would like to go to a school which offers it as a minor. I want this partially to further my comics study, partially as an interesting challenge, but mostly with an eye to spending some time in Japan in the future. I have a few friends there who have really piqued my interest in all things Japanse.

Here’s my nitpicky list of dream qualifications:

-I want a four-year institution, hopefully within a 3-4 hour drive of Utica (pretty much anywhere in NY state, Southern New England or Northern Pennsylvania).
-A strong Art Department with nice studio facilities
-Japanese language classes
-Small class sizes, with involved professors
-Freedom in scheduling with flexibility within majors. I want to take classes all over the place, not just on a predetermined path.
-Computers! It would be hard to top MICA’s labs upon labs of G3’s, but I need decent computer facilities.
-Good availibility of single rooms in on-campus housing or cheap apartments in the area (my boyfriend is staying home this time, but I can’t stand the idea of sharing a bedroom)
-Generous financial aid and scholarship offerings. I can’t depend on anything from my dad and with my two younger sisters in college my mom can’t do much of anything to help me, not that I’d expect it since I’ve been on my own for all this time.
-I suppose I want a college whith a Straight Dope mindset! is that too much to ask?

I’d like to shill for the institution I’m graduating from this weekend, the SUNY system’s University at Buffalo.

Check.

Look into this, but there seem to be tons of art students everywhere I go.

Check. I have Buffalo-born friends who sit in the back row of philosophy classes chattering in Japanese.

Check.

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-Freedom in scheduling with flexibility within majors. I want to take classes all over the place, not just on a predetermined path.

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Check. Oh, good lord, check.

Lots of them around.

Check. Not so sure about on-campus, but housing in Buffalo is ridiculously cheap.

The tuition’s disgustingly low to begin with, and I get the impression that they’re pretty liberal with the aid.

Yes, but you’ll do well with it at UB.

Thanks, Ace!
I’ll check into Buffalo asap. I am interested in SUNY schools, mainly because of the tuition and locations. I was interested in Purchase, but I understand from friends of friends who are students there that the housing situation both on and off campus is abysmal.

I know I’m going to have to do a bunch more research, but I wanted recommendations from people who are actually attending/have attended particular schools- You just can’t get the whole story from a brochure or the admissions office.

  1. My roommate went to SUNY Purchase, he indicated that it was a school that did not live up to its expectations.

  2. Im not that big on art schools, but i believe there is a decent art scool in Utica, Munson Williams Proctor Art Institute, but i may be mistaken…

3.And for your wish to stay near Utica, WHY!!!..central new york is, well to put it nicely the brown stain on the underwear of the universe… and ive only been in utica for a few years…

I have a friend at SUNY-Buffalo… we’re not in touch very often, but I get the impression he finds Buffalo the most depressing place on Earth. The environment might be something to keep in mind. I’ve known a few people at Buffalo over the years and none had positive reports about that aspect of it.

On the other hand, if you’re thrilled with Utica, you’ll be able to deal with Buffalo marvelously. :slight_smile:

Hampshire College, in Amherst, MA.

Bobkitty- thanks for the link- I’ll check it out.

Funny thing about it is that my little sister is starting Mt Holyoke in the Spring, so we’d see a lot of each other if I went to Hampshire. It would save on gas for trips home, that’s for sure!

I know Munson all too well, and it really isn’t what I’m looking for.
For all you jokers, I want to stay relatively near to the area because the boyfriend is moving back home to help his parents on the farm (no sarcasm here), and we want to be able to see each other with some regularity, and plane fare that often is out of the question. I actually like Central New York a lot, even though I’ve only lived here since High School. I guess it takes a cetain kind of temperament to enjoy it though.

WCOT©-- given how small this durn town is, we’ve probably met. Incidentally, how did you find this board from Utica? I got hooked on the column in Baltimore and stumbled over to the boards later…

We may have met, but i doubt it im a SUNYIT, and us SUNY Types dont generally mix well with the locals so… unless you frequent the varick, or other suny friendly bars, i doubt it. BTW, I just came across an interesting UNIX fortune:

I guess utica does have at least on claim to fame.

Where is the only place you can find edible thong underwear for sheep?
Fredericks of Utica, NY.

Hampshire is a good recommendation, and I’d throw Bard in there, too. Funky school, and yes they have Japanese.

I can’t recommend either of my schools, because I don’t believe they have art programs. However, I can recommend that you check out the book Colleges That Change Lives, by Loren Pope. It might help aim you in the direction of a school that has the sort of attitude you’d like.

I was going to suggest Towson University, but I don’t think they have Japanese. Other than that, it’s great, and as a bonus you’d get to move back to The Greatest City in America[sup]TM[/sup].

I have not attended school in central NY, but I have visited - - . Why not give the cultural mecca of the midwest a look!?! IU - Indiana University (Bloomington, IN - NOT PENNSYLVANIA) is an extremely diverse school - - with quality programs in a multitude of disciplines - - including art. I won’t continue to expand upon the greatness of IU; however, I will gladly give you more info upon request. I only spent the best 8 years (so far) of my life at IU and in Bloomington - - although - I have not had the fortune to spend much time there since 1998.

Are you a chem major at IUB also? Small world.

As far as the OP, just go to an in-state NY school rather than an out of state school. I seriously doubt the extra 50k you run up in tuition bills will ever make the out of state degree worth the extra effort. Unless you are going to college strictly for love and don’t care. then i retract my advice.

Here is a partial (or complete, i dont know) list of colleges in NY state.

Hear hear! Also, they have a program called the Collins Living Learning Center which is sort of a poor man’s Oxford - a small ivy-covered Gothic quad which features numerous special programs, including small seminars taught (often) by tenured faculty in their areas of research… at the dorm. It historically has included a plethora of art and music majors.

On the other hand, it would represent out of state tuition for you, which ain’t cheap.

I received my BS Chem at IU in 1998 (after starting in 1990 - I took a couple of detours along the way :smiley: ). Are you currently at IU? How is Dr Peters doing? You can tell Professor Hollingsworth (if he is still there) to kiss my …!