The Kansas City Chiefs were once the Dallas Texans
You’re also wrong about the Arizona Cardinals. They’re not a scrub franchise with no history. They were the Chicago Cardinals and have a history which dates back to 1920 (even before that).
I can’t believe you people are actually sanctioning this!!!
Sorry, Jaguar, but you grew up in Detroit so you’re stuck with the Lions. There’s no excuse for switching teams unless they move out of the area (like my old team the Rams did) or ownership begins to treat its fans with utter contempt (like the Arizona Cardinals).
Detroit’s just bad, but they’re trying. They’ve got a nice young core coming up. I’m going to advise you to stick with the Lions. You’ll feel dumb if you switch teams and then they become good and you can’t switch back without looking like a total bandwagon hopper.
Hail to the Redskins!
Hail Victory!
Braves on the warpath,
Fight for old D.C.!
Run or pass and score
We want a lot more!
Beat 'em swamp 'em touchdown
Let the points soar!
Fight on, fight on,
'Til you have won,
Sons of Wash-ing-ton!
I’ll be at the Redskins at Ravens game tonight, proudly wearing my Burgundy and Gold in downtown Baltimore.
How could anyone whose user name is Jet Jaguar root for anyone other than the Jets or the Jaguars??? 
**Bills ** season ticket holder here checking in.
A change of confrence might do you good. Think snow and rust belt cities, think Buffalo. Come to a game, it’s the lowest average ticket price in the leage. Buy early it almost always sells out the 81,000 seats.
For fan dedication by way of climate I can’t fault Green Bay. Here in Buffalo we go from short sleeves in October to looking like Bib the Michilen Man in December. I say a guy in so many layers of clothes he lit himself on fire over his grill at 9 in the morning and didn’t know it. Maybe because he was drinking beer since dawn, but fun to watch.
Stability? Been here with the same owner Ralph Wilson since 1959. Ralph by the way live in Detroit so there is a home town connection for you. He has never threatened to move or demand a new stadium. In the 60’s when things were dim for the AFC he loaned Al Davis and the KC owner (can’t remember his name) money to keep things afloat. How’s that for classy?
Last year they fielded the #2 defence and the best special teams in the league. With an exciting new young quarterback, it’s going to be a fun ride.
Yes we know. Your old defensive coach George Perles did the same thing to Michigan State helmets when he came over here. I’ve never forgiven him for that. Give me the Spartan head on both sides, not the block S on one side only. I’m glad he’s gone.
Interesting that the Chiefs are on the “old guard” list when they started in 1960 as the Dallas Texans, about the same year as the following:
Dallas Cowboys (1960)
Buffalo Bills (1959)
New York Jets (1959)
Tennessee Titans (Houston Oilers, 1959, Tennessee Titans, 1999)
Denver Broncos (1959)
Oakland Raiders (1959)
San Diego Chargers (1959)
Minnesota Vikings (1960)
However, other teams are not considered “old guard”, such as:
Arizona Cardinals (Morgan Athletic Club, 1898; Chicago Cardinals, 1922)
St. Louis Rams (Cleveland Rams, 1937)
Philadelphia Eagles (Frankford Yellowjackets, 1924; Philadelphia Eagles, 1933).
Cleveland Brows (1946)
Indianapolis Colts (Miami Seahawks, 1946; Baltimore Colts, 1947)
San Francisco 49ers (1946)
NOTABLY:
Detroit Lions (1934)
Chicago Bears (Decatur Staleys, 1920; Chicago Bears, 1922)
Green Bay Packers (1919)
New York Giants (1925)
Pittsburgh Steelers (Pittsbugh Pirates, 1933; Pittsburgh Steelers, 1940)
Washington Redskins (Boston Braves, 1932; Washington Redskins, 1937)
I second this. Please don’t give up on the Lions, I am a Giants fan, and I can almost guarantee these two teams will see a lot playoff action in the next three to four years. This year both teams will struggle abit, but the lions have the lion share of wide recievers that no team has.
Think of this, Mike Williams is 6’ 4" 229 lbs, Charles Rogers is 6’ 3" 220lbs and Roy Williams 6’ 2" 212 and he’s their first reciever. This is the largest set of recievers in the league. All three play a lot of downs at the SAME time. With Kevin Jones and Marcus Pollard from Indianapolis this is a maturing offensive force.
Lastly Harrington WILL become a top tier QB in no less than 2 years. Even if Harrington never pans out, Dan Orlovski is no slouch. I’ve seen him play in Shelton High School in CT. He regularly beat up on our High school team in Monroe.
I don’t particularly care for people who change teams because of the bad history. I have been a Boston Celtics and Red Sox fan all my life. And as you know the Red Sox finally came through last year. The Celt’s on the other hand keep trading Walker like a pin ball.
I also agree that you stick with the Lions as your top team.
Pick an alternate AFC team to root for.
For example, I will always be a Cowboys fan by birthright. However, I grew up in SoCal and picked the Chargers as my AFC team.
Speaking of the Chargers:
That should read:
San Diego Chargers (Los Angeles Chargers, 1959; San Diego Chargers, 1961)
Just out of curiosity, how is it you came to be a Giants fan rather than a Patriots fan?
Also wanted to add another corrolary to the “picking a new team excuse”: your home area doesn’t have an official team.
I grew up in NJ. I refuse to be a Giants (no offense) or Jets fan so long as they can’t even admit that they play in NJ, so out of spite for all the Giants (and icky Cowboys) fans I had to be around it only seemed natural to become a 'Skins fan.
If I can endure, any Lions fan sure can! 
Root for the pro team I follow, the Oakland Raiderettes.
I understand they are associated with some sort of football team too.
Root for the pro team I follow, the Oakland Raiderettes
I understand they are associated with some sort of football team too.
sorry for the double post :smack:
OK, ignoring the fact that the Broncos are generally the butt of the joke in The Simpsons:
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You forgot “Skinner’s Sense of Snow” (I know, season 12 crap, but still…)
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If you count Homer’s John Elway fantasy in “Cape Feare” as a Broncos ref, then you must count Troy Aikman’s appearance in “Sunday Cruddy Sunday” as a Cowboys reference, which gives Dallas (Homer’s favorite team BTW) just as many mentions as Denver (Namely: “Bart vs Thaksgiving”, “Lisa the Greek”, “You Only Move Twice”, “Sunday Cruddy Sunday”, and “Hungry Hungry Homer”)
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Who’s Opal?
Slight Aside: I would have sworn the Raiders had more references, but I could only find two (maybe three*): “Lisa the Greek” and “Sunday Cruddy Sunday”)
- Homie the Clown
Thanks for the correction on the Chiefs, guys. I thought they’d been around since the 30s. Learned my something new for the day.
If the majority of a franchise’s history is during the Superbowl era, it is not a tentpole franchise. I was wrong about the Chiefs.
You’re kidding with the Cardinals and Rams, right? They move more often than an army brat. The Colts got out of dodge in the middle of the night, and the Browns have nothing but sucktitude in their history, so much so that they moved when the town showed hostility toward them. (Building a Rock 'n Roll Hall Of Fame instead of a new Browns stadium? Egad. Okay, don’t build a stadium on taxpayer dollars, fair enough. How about selling out the occasional game then?)
I’ll give you the 49ers and the Eagles.
Isn’t this the group I identified?
Football? Hey it’s all just blokes in shorts BUT f you need a team this weekend please send good wishes to the All Blacks against the Wallabies (Oh those colours hurt the eyes).
Ellis Dee, I see what you’re saying, but I have a couple of points:
- Rams as “old guard” team:
1945: NFL Champs
1949: Championship game appearance
1950: Championship game appearance
1955: Championship game appearance
1979: Super Bowl appearance
1999: Super Bowl Champs
2001: Super Bowl appearance
Moving to a couple of different cities removes them from the “old guard”? Just curious.
- Cardinals as “old guard” team:
1947: NFL Champs
1948: Championship game appearance
Not exactly a winning tradition there, plus the instability in moving around… I can see why they may not garner the respect that the other “old guard” teams enjoy.
- Colts as “old guard” team:
1958: World Champs
1959: World Champs
1968: Super Bowl Appearance
1971: Super Bowl Champs
It appears that moving around takes them out of contention as “old guard” also?
- Browns as “old guard” team and their alleged history of “suckitude”:
1946: NFL Champs
1947: NFL Champs
1948: NFL Champs
1949: NFL Champs
1950: NFL Champs
1951: Championship game appearance
1952: Championship game appearance
1953: Championship game appearance
1954: NFL Champs
1955: NFL Champs
1964: NFL Champs
[Legends: Paul Brown, Jim Brown, Bernie Kosar ]
Yeah, I just threw it in there for fun.
Okay, a few different things going on here.
To the OP: You gotta stay with your home team. If you want someone else to care about, go with the suggestion that has been mentioned to pick a team in the other conference. The Ravens are the obvious choice; they are second only to the Patriots in Totally Super Coolness, and if you didn’t grow up a Pats fan I can see why you wouldn’t want to bandwagon it on up right now. So get thyself into purple and black. Learn the joy that is watching Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and the rest of the defense destroy all comers. Throw morality to the wind as you cheer for the best running back who spent all winter in jail.
To the other little sports debate: I think I gotta take Ellis Dee’s side on this one. Sneaking out of town definitely DQs the Colts, and jumping around does the same with the Rams - I think this category is teams that are instantly identified with their city, their greats, and their success. The Browns are the most questionable here, IMO. They have a great legacy, but unfortunately, not all that much more - the only notable Browns games I remember in my lifetime were opening round playoff games against the Bledsoe-era Pats in the mid 90s. A pretty significant chunk of the people who remember when the Browns were truly great watch the games every Sunday from nursing homes. This is a problem.
I’m not really sure why the Cardinals are even in the conversation. They have reason to be optimistic this year, but that franchise has been pathetic for a long time.
To soulmurk’s question - I’d assume he’s probably from CT, likely western or central. Connecticut is divided almost half and half among Red Sox and Yankees fans, depending mostly on where your parents are from and who they rooted for growing up. Most of the state prefers the Celtics to the Knicks for basketball, for pretty obvious reasons. On the other hand, the entire western half of CT is pretty solidly Giants territory (or was - I am sure that the last few years has created a pretty significant bandwagon effect). We are a weird state, most of which is never really sure if it belongs to New York or to Boston - oh, and we should never have had the Whalers stolen from us!
As a sort of interesting side effect, that leaves the Jets (logically, as they’re in our conference) as the Evil-NY-Team-du-jour rivalry, while even a bunch of Patriots fans at least feel sorry for if not outright support the Giants.
The Cardinals have only moved twice. They moved from Chicago to St. Louis and then from St. Louis to Phoenix. I actually prefer the name “Phoenix Cardinals” as compared with Arizona Cardinals. However, the current stadium is in Tempe and the new stadium will be in Glendale.
The Cards have had their problems over the years. However, the team is much improved and will be moving into a real NFL stadium next year.
If the OP is looking for a new team to root for, I say the Cardinals are the best choice.
Ah, the Ravens. A more appropriate representative for Charm City could scarcely be imagined - a team where the best players are a murderer and a drug dealer.