Help me understand how a diaphragm carburetor works

The most basic carburetor, typically found on a gasoline-powered lawn mower, is pretty darn simple:

  • Fuel from the tank flows (or is pumped) into a float bowl. When the float bowl is full, a float rises up and shuts a cute little valve, preventing any more fuel from entering the bowl. If the bowl is less than full, the float drops, opens the valve, and lets more fuel in.

  • During an intake stroke, air is drawn through a venturi, creating a pressure drop that sips fuel from a straw in the bowl and mixes it with that intake air. Mixture is drawn in to the combustion chamber, and your grass gets cut.

These work nicely, as long as they’re operated on approximately level ground. The float bowl depends on gravity for its operation, so if you get to really off-kilter angles, they don’t run so well.

This is why things like string trimmers and chainsaws use diaphragm carburetors instead. They are pretty much immune to gravity, so you can run a chainsaw right side up, upside down, sideways, whatever, it just doesn’t care.

So now I’m trying to understand how a diaphragm carburetor works. I’ve been watching this guy’s video, which shows a schematic cross-section of a diaphragm carb:

To help orient you, the long black thing angling up/left from bottom right is the throttle valve, shown wide-open with air moving away from your eyeballs through the venturi in the middle.

I understand the diaphragm pump at the bottom of the carb well enough: crankcase pressure pulses actuate the small diaphragm at bottom-center, which - together with a couple of one-way flapper valves - moves fuel from the tank up toward the metering valve at top left. He describes all of this from about 1:20 to 4:30.

The part I’m struggling to get my head around starts at 4:31. This is where he starts talking about fuel being metered into the venturi. At this point, the piston is on the upstroke, drawing air through the venturi and creating a vacuum on the large metering diaphragm at the top. The little nubbin on the center of the diaphragm pushes the lever to lift the metering needle (at top left) off of its seat. There’s vacuum under the diaphragm because of the air flow through the venturi, so it should pull fuel up past that metering valve, right?

Except how can it do that? The chamber just upstream of the metering valve is sealed by those checkvalves, drawn tight against their seats by the crankcase vacuum pulling on the pumping diaphragm at the bottom. It’s like trying to suck water out of a steel tube that’s been capped at the other end.

The other part of my confusion is that the the diaphragm pump ends up trying to push fuel downstream against the closed metering valve, so how can it actually move any fuel along at all?

The only way I can imagine this thing working is this:

  • During an intake stroke, crankcase vacuum is creating a vacuum under the pumping diaphragm, closing the checkvalve at bottom right.

  • However, venturi vacuum is even greater than crankcase vacuum. So when the metering valve at top left opens, that venturi vacuum is strong enough to defeat the pumping diaphragm vacuum, opening that checkvalve at bottom right and pulling fuel through the carb to the venturi from all the way back in the tank.

If I’m correctly understanding how a diaphragm carb works during an intake stroke, then I don’t understand why the pumping section is needed at all. The venturi vacuum seems like it can pull all the fuel it needs straight from the tank, and it seems like the pump diaphragm isn’t actually allowed to do anything useful, since its outstroke is only ever pushing fuel against a closed metering valve. It seems likely that I’m misunderstanding, since diaphragm carbs continue to be made with a pumping section. So…help me understand?

Wow, while asking a question, you’ve dispensed a ton of knowledge.

This is how diaphragm carburetors actually work.

I’m sure you can understand this much better than I.

The explanation in your video is confusing. Don’t know if I can help at all. You seems to understand things in general. The external diaphragm closes the air and fuel intakes so air isn’t expelled from the intake on the down stroke and to maintain pressure in the fuel line with the aid of a check valve. The internal diaphragm controls the amount of fuel allowed into the mixing chamber so it’s not just an amount varying with fuel pressure which varies with engine speed and orientation. I’m not clear on the specifics of the pressure controlling that internal diaphragm based on the video or your question. My assumption has been that fuel is not being drawn from a closed line but fuel is pressurized in that line. I don’t think I’ve ever looked at that part of the system in any detail though.

I think the missing element is that the large volume containing fuel under the metering needle valve is compliant in some way. The fact it is drawn as a significant volume rather than just a simple pipe is a clue toward this. So it stores pressure as fuel is pumped into it. It may be as simple as a tube made of rubber or flexible plastic, or could be constructed with a plunger and spring at one end. Probably endless possibilities.
But if there is some springy compliance in the volume, the system should work.

Look at this and follow the fuel, there is no float bowl to hold fuel, fuel is delivered and shut off depending on piston stroke.

Follow the fuel path, it goes through the intake pipe, by the diaphram, then by the needles ( ignore the choke).

I think you’ve hit it with this. Take a look at this video, cued to 2:33 where he starts taking the carb apart:

He starts by taking the cover off of the pump side of the carb. At 2:53 the cover comes off, and the area of interest is the exposed part of the diaphragm nearest his ring finger. That’s covering the bottom of the chamber just upstream of the metering valve (the round pocket nearest his ring finger at 3:00). At 26.33, he shows the inside surface of the cover that clamps the pumping diaphragm to the carb body. The rectangularish depression closest to his pinky finger ends up directly over the chamber upstream of the metering valve. So yes, there is a diaphragm there that’s providing compliance, allowing the pumping diaphragm to squeeze in a bit of extra fuel during the piston’s downstroke, and pushing the fuel past the metering valve when venturi vacuum pulls down on the metering diaphragm.

Looking at this some more, it’s not so much the large overall volume of that chamber that matters - rather, it’s the large cross-sectional area, which facilitates the use of a large diaphragm that can store a substantial volume of fuel under pressure within the volume of its own deformation.

So it looks like that’s the missing element in the video I linked to in my OP: a useful degree of springy compliance in the chamber just upstream of the metering valve, allowing it to behave like a hydraulic accumulator.