Help me with a stir fry sauce! Recipes wanted!

I am a pretty handy guy around the kitchen (I cook almost all the meals for my wife and I) but I know nothing about making sauces.

I decided I am going to make a stir-fry tonight. Either beef or chicken, undecided with that. However, it will be a typical stirfry with bean sprouts, carrots, mushrooms etc on a bed of rice. I would rather not buy a redi-made sauce, so if my fellow dopers with a good culinary thumb can give me some recipes I would be appreciative. :slight_smile:

Preferebly something semi-quick. Either a sauce to cook with the food or one to put on after the fact.

I am also open to marinades :slight_smile:

Thanks!

I usually just do something like this:

1/4 cup rice wine
1/8 cup soy sauce
1/8 cup oyster sauce
a sprinkle of sesame oil
a tablespoon or so of cornstarch

Whisk together and set aside. Add to wok a few minutes before serving.

You can vary the proportion and amount to your liking. Also, try different soy sauces, such as garlic tamari, shoyu sauce, etc.

Sounds good! I will have to get some oyster sauce on the way home from work… and I may have to sub a “regular” white wine in place of the rice wine.

Sounds like a good recipe, but don’t substitute regular white wine. Dry sherry or even whisky would be better.

Why do you not think its a good idea to use white wine? The flavour just wouldn’t go?

I do have some Canadian Club in the cupboard. I can imagine that would go alright (ala whisky beef I suppose?)

If you want a semi-Thai or Vietnamese style sauce, you can do:

1 part Soy Sauce
1 part Fish Sauce
1 part Rice Wine Vinegar
~1/3 part sugar
Sprinkle top of stir fry with fresh cilantro before serving.

Other ideas:

Sweet & Sour Sauce:

1/4 cup red wine vinegar
1/4 cup sugar
2 tablespoons tomato sauce
2 tablespoons pineapple juice
salt

Szechuan (hot) style sauce:

1.5 - 2 T soy sauce
1 T sesame oil
3 T dry sherry
1 T chili paste
1/4 t. sugar
black or Szechuan pepper
salt

About the wine: I don’t know if you’ve ever tasted rice wine, but it’s not acidic like regular white wine. It’s smooth and sweetish, with an aftertaste similar to sherry. So, although, I’ve never tried it, I would think that using white wine would give the dish a ‘vinegary’ flavor that may not be what you are aiming for.

Is this rice wine sake? Or something else?

Thanks!

Chinese rice wine isn’t the same as sake, but I think sake would make a decent substitute, although you might want to add a pinch of sugar. I’ve often seen recipes call for “mirin” which I believe is another Japanese rice wine. I never tasted it, but I assume it’s sweeter than sake.

I pour some soy sauce into a bowl, and add globs of this and that until I like the way it tastes. Oyster sauce, hoisin sauce, sesame oil, rice wine, honey, five-spice powder, cayenne, cilantro, chopped garlic - whatever. If it seems strong, I add some water. After stir-frying, pour it into the wok. When it starts to boil, add a tablespoon or so of cornstarch dissolved in a little cold water, and stir until it’s thick and doesn’t taste like raw cornstarch.

That reminds me. You should definitely saute the meat with some garlic and ginger, in case that wasn’t already on your list. Fresh ginger would be best, but the dried stuff works in a pinch.

Also, towards the end, you might want to add some sesame oil to the frying stuff - it adds a nice extra bit of flavor.

Even though this is after the fact:

The rice wine in question is called Xao Xing. Dry sherry may be substituted but it really isn’t the same. Mirin is good but does not have the darker body of the aged Chinese rice wines. An eight year old bottle of Xao Xing cost me about $5.00 USD.

When making a stir fry there are a few simple principles to adhere to;
High heat:

You work should be pretty quick. Food should not remain in the pan for very long. Great care must be excercised when adding garlic to the pan so that it does not brown and get a very bitter flavor.

Shrimp and other raw shellfish like scallops will cook almost instantaneously. They should be added at the very last step in cooking. The high heat allows tender meats like chunks of fish to flash cook and not fall apart.

Oil is your friend. It stops food from sticking to the surface of the pan. Add the oil just before the ingredients go into the pan. Avoid using roasted sesame oil in excessive quantites. Its flavor will dominate the others rather quickly.
The Ingredients:

Your ingredients should all be cut up into pieces of the same size. This will tend to equalize their cooking times so that none of the final serving is too crunchy or too soft.

Remove the “strings” from your celery by breaking the top off while bending it backwards. Pull down smartly as you break the rib and the strings will come free. Cut the ribs on an angle to expose more of the soft interior.

Bell peppers should have all of their seeds and any of the membranes removed from the interior prior to cooking. Peppers with really thick skins can be peeled like a potato.

Unlike a lot of western recipes, one does not usually “sweat” the onions until they are translucent. A more crisp texture is usually desirable in Asian cooking. One way to soften the onions a little bit is to flash steam them with a splash of stock ladled into the pan which is then covered tightly.

Garlic is a highly regarded food in almost all Asian countries and is used in large quantities. It is usually coarsely chopped and add directly into the vegetables instead of being sauted in advance.

Blanching mung bean sprouts in a pot of boiling water for thirty seconds, and then submerging them in iced or cold water to stop the cooking process, eliminates a sometimes bitter taste they can have.

I usually add the ingredients in order of their cooking time. Longer cooking vegetables like carrots, onions, bell peppers and brocolli, will go in before scallions, mushrooms, bean sprouts or meats. Carrots usually go in first because of their fibrous nature. For symbolic good fortune they may be cut into “golden” coins, or better yet, roll the carrot thirty degrees every time you cut a piece of off at an angle. You will get attractive irregular nuggets of carrot.
Seasoning:

The grand triumvirate in Chinese cooking is the combination of garlic, ginger and soy sauce. Look for a nice aged tamari for a real kick. The delicate flavors of seafoods and poultry benefit more from the lighter or “sweet” soy sauces.

Five spice powder is your friend. It is one of the signature flavors in Chinese cooking and its sweeping variety of flavors from star anise to cinnamon give a grand scope to a sauce’s flavor.

White pepper is more appropriate to Asian cooking. The dark fragments of cracked black pepper often provide too sharp a visual and flavor contrast in the more subtle Chinese recipes.

Scallions are a classic component. Be sure to keep a correct balance of the green to white part of the onion. Certain recipes will call for large quantities of the green ends. Usually they are used more sparingly due to their strong flavor.

For true authenticity, try using shitake mushrooms. Their earthy flavor adds a depth of character to your sauce that is hard to replace.
Sauce:

Good chicken or beef stock is critical to a good Chinese stir fry. Better yet, reduce it by half in volume before using it in your dish. Tinned stocks are good, but only after a bit of reduction.

Keep some of your reduced stock nearby. Blend it with a few teaspoons of corn starch and have it ready to add somewhere about two thirds of the way through the cooking process. To allow the starch to thicken properly the liquid that carries it must come to a brief boil. Be sure to stir constantly to avoid clumping or sticking. Be sure there is some small amount of liquid in the pan before adding the cornstarch and stock mixture.
Meats:

Meats are usually thinly sliced to increase their surface area so that they cook quickly. Shrimp and prawns are butterflied for the same reason.

One method that yields a really authentic texture is to silk the meat and to fry it separately before adding the vegetables and sauce. A beef and brocolli done this way becomes truly memorable.
Rice:

Fittingly, at the end of everything comes the rice, as it should. Fluffy rice is no secret and not rocket science, it is just an art that needs practice. Bad rice can ruin a meal so pay careful attention to this mainstay of Asian cooking.

MMMMmmmm. good recipes.

I cooked my way through friend’s and relatives’ houses in Europe with the following recipe, which I learned to cook at sea.

The sauce: 1 part lemon juice, 2 oyster sauce, 3 soy, 4 teriyaki.

Start with ginger (a thumb sized piece). dice it… and leave the skin on. It’s too much of a pain to peel it.
Garlic, onions.
Veggies (usually carrots, brocoli, red pepper, celery, zucchini, whatever else is lying around).
prawns, maybe some nuts (cashews or peanuts are good)

Don’t forget your noodles! Get some steam fry noodles, plunk 'em in boiling water for 1 or 2 minutes (check the package to make sure you’re buying the right stuff), then throw that in your stir fry as well.

Here is one I like, you just dump it in at the last few minutes of stir-frying.

A crushed clove of garlic,
Grated fresh ginger, about the same amount,
Freshly ground black pepper, a bit more than you think.
A tablespoon or two of red currant jelly,
Two tablespoons of your favorite soy sauce.
Warm it until the jelly melts.

This doesn’t make a lot of sauce, although it combines well with what is rendered by the veggies. Add broth if you wish, although you might need a thickener in that case.

This is good on poultry based dishes, or fish.

Tris

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…errrr…um, how about a veggie recipe??

I saw the sweet & sour one, but I’m not a lover of sweet and sour sauce. Fish paste and oyster sauce I can’t really eat.

I know, picky, picky.

You could substitute hoisin sauce for the oyster sauce (I believe it’s veggie). You could also try some of the more exotic types of soy sauce (e.g., mushroom soy), or black bean sauce (very good with tofu). Teriyaki is also a good choice, and you can adjust the sweetness to your liking. I’ve also had tasty stir fries that use miso, tahini or peanut butter in addition to the soy. These are especially good with noodle dishes.

What are the five spices in five spice powder? I can’t find any kosher, and am thinking of making it myself.

This isn’t an authoritative answer–just did a very quickie Google search but maybe it’ll help you get started…five spice powder.

One thing I CAN suggest from experience…buy a cheapie coffee grinder just for spices. It’ll set you back about $10 but fresh ground spices make a world of difference in taste. It also helps to buy whole spices in small quantities from a natural foods store–MUCH cheaper and years fresher.

Veb