Help me with another RPG scenario, please?

I’m not too invested in the sentience of the “waters” - I see them as primaraly a pattern-reading transformative conduit. Other peoples don’t have the totemic amulets that the Bujoc do (and guard so closely all their lives), so they don’t reincarnate.

We could speculate on what might happen to a old Bujoc who entered the waters without his amulet (although that’s too far-fetched to really happen, IMO) or what would happen to a non-Bujoc who underwent an Initiation ritual, went to a Sha Woman and got “read” and given a totem token before entering the Waters? That’s a tiny bit more likely than an elderly Bujoc entering the Waters sans token, but how likely is up to you. Or whether a different use of Divination or a different “marking” system has any effect - sun sign, for example?

<stained|glass>
\split/rays
/cut\patterns/
carving
empty space
c|a|g|e|s
~aquaducts~
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CollectioN BinS
. . . hue
enTanglement
DISjunction
MECHANICAL tic
LOOM

Just to add to what I mentioned earlier, my GM used to run Poor Richard’s Harn Page, which I understand you can still find mirrors of. Dang, now I’ve got the bug again…

I think the godstone is best as a red herring (although the question of where it was targeted before is interesting). It’s an easy, obvious answer for disappearing bodies.

That leaves the pool, about which we have some fascinating, but fragmentary, information:

  1. It was, presumably, created by the Earthmasters.
  2. The Earthmasters apparently felt the need for two such pools, or possibly a pool that somehow complements this one.
  3. The other pool was damaged and drained somehow.
  4. The substance in the pool is not water (it’s less dense).
  5. The substance in the pool does not immediately damage flesh submerged in it.
  6. The substance in the pool is apparently not diminished by evaporation.
  7. The pool is of limited depth, but its contents don’t seem to be.

The key questions, I think, are “Why did the Earthmasters make the pools?” and “What was in the other pool?” Another good one is “Why do elderly/dying Bujoc feel compelled to jump in the pool?”

In the following scenario, bear in mind that I know only what’s been revealed in this thread about Earthmasters–this could conflict with canon.

Scenario:

In the ancient past, Telumar was a place of healing and renewal. A handful of Earthmasters discovered a way to rejuvenate the old and the dying, washing away the weight of years. They created two pools charged with such immense mystical power that the magic took on tangible form, one pool filled with an amber pseudo-liquid, the other with green(?).

As one sank into the amber pool, it gently transformed flesh into spiritual energy, soul and body become one. Thus freed of the bonds of matter, the transformed being could drift down through the mystical conduit leading to the other pool. As the spirit rose up through the energies of the green pool, they swirled around it, building a new body in the image of the spirit. For the Earthmasters this was (almost) invariably the same as their original body in the prime of life and health. Occasionally, a spirit would emerge in a new form, reflecting the true nature of its soul. A bird or beast, or even a monster, could rise from the pool, if the soul most closely resembled such a creature.

A dead body lowered into the pool would be transformed and then, lacking any force to animate it, simply dissipate.

Being highly intelligent as well as powerful, the Earthmasters included certain precautionary measures. To insure that participants did not panic during the process, the amber pool was made to emit a soothing, almost hypnotic aura to those who were dying. The pool also allows a change of heart–if a spirit begins to resist its draw, it can swim upward and find its flesh restored.

Some time in the past, the green pool was damaged. It could have been done by another Earthmaster for his own inscrutable reasons (jealousy/outrage/fear/environmental activism/whatever). Alternatively, a natural event like an earthquake could have damaged it much later, enough so that the elves or even the Bujoc had some idea what the pools did. With the green pool gone, the conduit has no end, so anyone sinking in the amber pool simply continues to drift peacefully on forever, lulled by the aura of the pool.

So, it’s possible that the Bujoc retain some (heavily distorted) legend about Telumar being the actual location where reincarnation happens. The original legends would refer to elders (or beings of the prior races) walking into the place, then young people or animals emerging. Over time, as no one returned, the legends changed to reflect a spiritual rebirth rather than a physical one.

Meanwhile, 50 generations of Bujoc elders drift peacefully into the depths, fear and loneliness eased by the gentle currents of magic, thinking their long, slow thoughts. What might happen if the green pool were to be restored?

Balance, that’s an interesting scenario. You’ve put a lot of thought into this! The green pool, if that’s what it was, was destroyed a mere 13 years ago, by a landslide. So if Bujoc were going in, they were coming out of the green pool. Perhaps as animals.

Here are some more facts about the site:

  1. Elkul-Anuz, another Earthmaster site, has a similar pool, and only one. Indeed, as the hapless servent of an evil but curious mage found out, you go in and don’t come out.

  2. Telumar has a number of semi-transparent domes, and four outlying pylons. When the godstone is used, the domes swirl with color and light. On occasions, the pylons glow, and at seemingly random times they briefly shoot a bright beam of white light straight up. This effect can be seen from 12 miles away.

Well, that changes things a bit. If the other pool was there in living memory, and no one has seen anyone/anything come out, it sort of breaks the healing/reincarnation idea. (Unless you want them all to come out as animals, influenced by the magic of their totemic amulets, perhaps?)

Hm. Then why would there be two at Telumar? Pure design aesthetic? To keep the lines manageable? To pursue this, we’d really need to know for certain whether or not the two pools were the same.

Well, you’ve connected the domes with the godstone without drawing a similarly obvious connection to the pylons. They should not be acting at random–if they exhibit a phenomenon, it has to have a meaning. Logically, it would be connected to the pool(s). You didn’t say if there were similar pylons at other Earthmaster sites. Assuming that means that there aren’t any, we might conclude that Telumar is the main site for whatever the pools are doing.

Off on a tangent: What happened to the Earthmasters? Did they die out? Wipe each other out? Leave the world in a known fashion? Just vanish?

Could they have used some combination of the pool, the godstone, and the pylons to go…somewhere? Maybe the godstones can only send solid/living matter to other godstones in this world. The amber pools prepare you for transport elsewhere; the glow shows the preparation is complete, and the beam marks an actual transit (maybe it only activates when it has a certain number of “passengers”). The other pool could, perhaps, have been an exit gate. Or maybe it was a one-way trip, and all the pools were identical.

Basically, this is the “Telumar as Grand Central Station” theory. :slight_smile:

And we don’t, for certain. But they certainly look identical. And they are in exactly identical chambers in a completely symmetrical building.

They appeared mysteriously, and they vanished mysteriously.

I think this is plausible. Godstones can only transport organic material. That includes cloth clothing, leather shoes, and wooden weapons. Metal will be rejected. (Hence, no guns in Harn, a point of serious contention among gamers.) We know for certain that the pseudo-water exists interdimensionally. Since everything sinks in it, we can assume that inorganic objects go where everything else goes. Perhaps all 3 pools were in fact a means of mass exodus for them and all their stuff.

It occurs to me that I have an Earthmaster article at home that I haven’t read since Clinton administration. Maybe I should read it, huh? Maybe there are more clues there.

An idea came to me last night.

The Bujoc have a ceremony to mark the transition between Ah Who is Young and Ah Who is Strong, during this ceremony they consume a substance which is unknown to non-Bujoc. The substance contains tiny semi-intelligent larvae. These larvae are dormant at the time of consumption, remain in the Bujoc, and become active at around the time when Ah Who are Old make their pilgrimage to Telumar. They devour the Bujoc from inside, bones and all. The effectively bottomless pool is a red herring.

Lepridis somehow found out about the semi-intelligent larvae and is in the process of making contact, thinking he can send a plague upon Cherafir.

What would tell these larvae to become active? Being exposed to a Bujoc’s body temperature starts the process; the process completes after however much time passes between consumption and the pilgrimage. The bodies of Bujoc who die early are also consumed at the appointed time–perhaps Lepridis engaged in a bit of Bujoc grave robbing to find his larvae?

There are a number of problems with the scenario. For one thing, the godstones are immoveable, even by a wizard. For another, the Bujoc produce nothing useful except more Bujoc. They’re hunter-gatherers. Lastly, your scenario assumes wizards that are pretty evil. They’re not. Besides, it’s against the rules. Rule 1 on the sign next to the shelf o’ scrolls specifically says “Rule 1: No killing of harmless old men.”