Huh. I never realized that a house and a new car were necessary to raise a child.
I just love the terms and conditions they have listed. They amount to “hand over your money and begone with you.”
They already have $8,150 with eighty something days to go. You know, I think I feel a pregnancy coming on me, too. 
Only if I can donate for your hysterectomy.
Sgt Schwartz
K - that’ll be 50k.
Fuck it, I took my anger out on you. I deleted the venom, and the post.
Sgt Schwartz
Thanks. Uh, I think?
Sorry to hear about your troubles BTW - pisses me off that people that want kids can’t have them while others that seem to have no business breeding (like the astounding couple in this lovely scam) continue to have kids that they either don’t want or are ambivalent about. I seriously doubt there’s a pregnancy at the end of that website, but if there is, I feel sorry for the kid.
So no-one can say “We’ll abort if we have to, but we wish we didn’t have to, and if we have to, we’ll try and help out so that someone else in our position won’t have to”?
Abstract question. I’ve got ample doubts about the couple in this story.
I can’t see a damn thing wrong with this. I think this couple is briliiant. I support them all the way. I wish I’d thought of this. There isn’t any “hostage.” There isn’t any “baby.” This just asks anti-choice zealots to put their money where their mouths are. If they really have such a desperate need to control another woman’s body, then now they’re being offered a chance to pay for the privilege. If they really think a fetus is a baby then they shouldn’t have a problem with ponying up a few bucks. If they aren’t willing to come up with some cash, it just proves what frauds they are. Brilliant.
I really don’t see what the outrage is about. There’s no victim here, only some entrepeneurship and some winding up of people who deserve winding up. Kudos to these people. I hope they hit their target.
What about this is a “scam?”
If you can’t have kids then no other woman has a right to teminate a pregnancy? What kind of logic is that? Nobody owes you a child.
A fetus is not a person. No person is being threatened. This involves nothing but a woman’s choice about her own body.
You must be reading a different page than what I’m reading. I see people calling her a “cunt” and a “murderer.”
Really? Is that what you really think?
I agree that they are brilliant, but only in the sense that there is a sucker born every minute and if you can get a buck out of them, more power to you.
I don’t know what cause is there that you support, but I don’t think a website about “give me money or I will kill a cow to make burgers” is a good “show them for the frauds they are” ploy against vegetarians. Or “give me money or I will destroy this house” against architects. Or “give me money or I will shred this LP” against Beatle’s fans.
There is no philosophical brilliance on this. Only financial brilliance, if anything
Absolutely.
This implies that the people who are being asked for money are being swindled somehow. There’s no deception here that I can see. No one is being cheated. It’s a straight up offer to carry a pregnancy for cash. If you’re not interested, don’t send money. If they get the amount they’re asking for and go through with the pregnancy then how did anybody get ripped off?
This couple isn’t threatening to destroy or kill anything, but I don’t have any philosophical problem with any of your other scenarios either. None involve deception. None involve a victim.
What’s wrong with financial brilliance?
Nothing wrong with financial brilliance, of course (except that it doesn’t seem to happen to me).
And I am not saying this is fraud of any kind. Although I am inclined to believe that not all cards are on the table, that is not my issue with this. It might be true that this couple is in the predicament they say they are and that they will do as stated.
I just don’t think it is such a good way to expose morality paladins. And I must presume it isn’t, if I am going to believe the website.
Also, if it were a cause I felt strongly about, I still wouldn’t feel compelled to send them money or be shown as a fraud for my cause. I would not send them money because I would have better ways to address it than increasing the probability of a particular instance being resolved.
I could send $40K to them right now and they could still fall short of their goal and terminate the pregnancy. Or they could meet the goal and I would still be leaving hundreds of others in the same predicament (sans the website) unaddressed.
Helping them does nothing to solve the general problem. I fell no obligation to help their cause. There are better channels to my generosity in trying to solve the matter.
The same can be said for any scam - you don’t see it until it’s over. This is really pinging my BS meter, the scam would be if their story is not completely on the up and up.
That said, I’ve got no real outrage here. The only other thing that would make this better is if they were from Nigeria.
That’s true. It would be a scam if there really was no pregnancy or something but if, for the sake of argument, the scenario is accepted as presented, then I don’t see anything dishonest about it.
I personally think there isn’t a pregnancy. I acknowledge I could be wrong, but it’s much easier for me to believe that this is just some guy (or gal) grubbing money, nothing more or less.
I doubt that “pro-life” charities have any interest in helping out women who want to carry pregnancies but are too impoverished to do so.
Charities who support mothers living in poverty are food banks, family resource centres, toy-lending libraries and vocational training programs that offer free daycare.
But offering to give the money to a pro-life charity is a good way to reassure those who are thinking of sending money that their donation will still be used for its intended cause regardless of what this couple does.
I know, I just had to say that anyone who thinks the the majority of anti-choicers put their money into helping wanted-but-struggling children, is kidding themselves.