Thanks. Great to have some facts.
Stupid Catholic Church, things like this is why I got out before they kicked me out. 
You know, I hate to sound like a weasel, but this is harsher than I really want to mean, after some thought. I do have issues with the RCCs actions and policies, but I don’t want to sound like I’ve got a hardon for them. (heh) I don’t, but this is an RO thread and I get RO-ish in them sometimes.
Thank you!!!
I’ve actually thought of getting a T-shirt or bumper sticker made that says,
"My religion is not for rent."
A 9 yrold is raped and impregnated and the RO here is saved for the Cat’lics excommunicating them from a club most of you have nothing but utter disdain for?
Could we pretty please get some motherfucking perspective up in this bitch?
And I’m sure you’re a fucking moron, but hey, you keep on throwing that paint everywhere, jackass.
Are the defenders of Catholicism saying that Catholicism is a cafeteria-style religion where you get to pick and choose which things you will believe that the Catholic church believes in or what? Because, to me, if you are not believing everything a certain religion teaches, then you really can’t be part of that religion. What’s the point of having a religion then? I mean if a religion teaches that if you have an abortion, you’re going to hell, you can’t really say well, “I’m a Catholic, but I don’t believe that.” Otherwise, anyone can pick and choose what they want to believe and have it be just as valid as anyone else. Which leads me to my conclusion again: What’s the point in having a religion if you’re just going to make up your own beliefs and rules?
No, no. A fucking moron would have ignored the fact that no 9-year-old rape victims were excommunicated in this horrible incident, whereas…
Oh, right. Excuse me.
Hmm… according to Catholic.com, in order to get off the hook for abortion, all you have to do is confess.
So, I mean, as far as this thread is concerned, I don’t understand how being excommunicated really hurts someone since it’s a make-believe ritual for a make-believe system.
As one of the previous posters pointed out, the Cardinal seems to be in the wrong; if the twins will put the mother’s life in danger, then they can be aborted. The vatican should be called to investigate the cardinal’s behavior. He is actually rather far out of line with the actual doctrine of the church.
Because for those who do believe in it, it is quite real. If I put a lot of value in something, regardless of whether that is true or not, as long as I believe it is and am invested in it then to have it taken away is going to seriously affect me.
I actually do appreciate the attempt to dispel a little ignorance. Because in response to this story I, a non-Catholic, wondered just what, in general, people could get excommunicated for. What counts as an excommunicable offense? Who decides who gets excommunicated? How does one get unexcommunicated again? I wondered about these things, partly just because the story piqued my curiosity, and partly because, yeah, this whole thing is fucked up, but if I knew the answers to those questions, I’d be better able to judge whether the excommunication part is just a little fucked up, or way way fucked up; and I’d be better able to judge where the fucked-uppedness lies: in the excommunication rules of the Church, or in the way they had been applied (possibly inappropriately) in this case, or both?
You the priests to excommunicate themselves?
My god, it’s unpossibly terrible.
Did I ignore that fact? No. Up yours.
Did the person I quoted paint Catholics with an absurdly large brush and ascribe ideas to them that nobody I know (or have even found being serious on the internet) holds? Yes. We’re supposed to be fighting ignorance, not spreading it.
I’ve been full up on outrage for the former as soon as I read about it. I can’t imagine how anyone’s reaction could differ from my own (except maybe that one dude who posted a while back about how ‘mature’ is underage, potential girlfriend was…)
I just thought it was fantastic that this girl is going to grow up to learn how her family and the doctors who saved her did something wrong by helping her live. And that her dad, well, didn’t (unless I’m wrong and he’s been booted, too).
Honestly, to me, getting excommunicated seems like the best thing that could happen to someone. But I didn’t grow up that way or in that sort of society.
Except your OP and OP title gives no indication of this, the only real mention of the girl’s situation is the set up for the moral indignation of the OP’s title and is presented as if it were half price carrots in the Costco ad…
I know that, as a general broad-brush rule, this board has a hard-on for Catholics, Christianity … and pretty much religion of any sort… but damn… can we keep in perspective the REAL issue here?
And not for nothing, but calling moral indignation out on the Catholics for their interpretation of ridiculous antediluvian rules is like playing basketball with a retard and calling him for double dribble… some shit ya gotta let slide. (Chris Rock,Bigger and Blacker, Chris Rock Enterprises, 1996)*
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No we don’t. So long as the Catholic Church is trying to prevent ALL of us (not just Catholics) from having access to abortions or, for that matter, birth control, we’re not letting any damn thing they do slide. They want some slack, they better damn well get out of our faces.
Err, she’s agreeing with you that the person you quoted was a fucking moron (since the logic involved only makes a shred of sense if the nine-year-old was the one excommunicated).
No, he didn’t.
Vatican defends Brazil excommunication
Right.
But then, they don’t mind pedophiles in the Catholic Church, so why should we be surprised at this?
One of the doctors is going to attend mass anyway.
Oh, and in other news…
So the fact that the stepfather violating his stepdaughter resulted in said pregnancy which necessitated an abortion…that doesn’t register for the Catholic Church? Even a little?