Here I go again. South Park hates Liberals, and I hate South Park(not completely, t)

Huh. I saw Team America as very much pro-conservative.

Still thought it was funny, though. For the most part, Stone and Parker’s positions are coherent and well thought-out, and delivered with wicked wit, and have often made me reconsider some things that I had taken for granted (even if after reconsideration, I decide I was right in the first place.) I don’t want everything I see, hear, or read to merely parrot back positions I already hold. That way lies mental stagnation and total boredom.

Stranger things have happened . . . “Boss” Tweed was destroyed by Thomas Nast’s cartoons as much as anything else.

Cite, please? But not here – it wouldn’t be appropriate, as the mods have admonished us in this and other CS threads. Start a GD thread – “Liberal media bias exists” or something to that effect" – with a cite to this study (and a link, ideally), and we shall we what we shall see. You’d be filling a void. Many Dopers have argued in GD for the existence of “liberal media bias” but I’ve never seen one cite an “independent study” in support. (Some cite Bernie Goldberg’s books, but that doesn’t really count.)

What’s the difference?

Doesn’t clear up the picture. I’ve known a lot of Libertarians with that attitude.

:smack: You really should just let this go.

This is South Park.
This is NOT:

  • an ABC after-school special
  • a Very Special Blossom
  • a 60 Minutes editorial
  • anything anyone takes seriously

So, let’s get this straight…after several seasons on the air, Trey and Matt FINALLY got around to poking fun at your particular demographic, or one that you hold in esteem. Well aren’t you special little %#&@ing flower that it took them this long? Nobody has any right to offend you!!! :wally

Lighten up…you’re just another notch in their bedposts.

Just wanted to parrot your excellent post.

Hippy!

I dunno, I said that around the campfire, but nobody got scared…

That’s because you never went camping with Komsomol! :slight_smile:

Maybe a little, but it definatly looked like it was poking fun at the Bush adminstration’s approach to the war on terror. It just doesn’t name names like it does with the liberal entertainers who they mock.

Gary’s inflitration job in cairo looked like a bit of a poke at US intelligence(the hammer, the signal, the “disguise”).

And that is why you are not in charge of programming at Fox News. :wink:

The Simpsons is better, and always will be.

Seems to me like South Park will zing your beliefs one week, your neighbor’s the next.

What’s wrong with that?

And heck, if it has a right wing slant (which I contend it doesn’t), who cares? As a moderate to conservative person I can watch The Daily Show and laugh out loud when Stewart skewers my core beliefs. As long as its funny…

That’s my opinion as well. You can make fun of my political and social beliefs. I’m a big boy, I can take it. And even after the jokes, I’ll still be right. :wink: I think South Park crossed a line with the transgendered episode, however. But that one episode… That was just hateful.

But I understand everyone else doesn’t agree that they were actually targetting transgendered people in general, rather than just Mr(s). Garrison, and I think that points out the difficulty with dissecting political humor like this. How much of this is satire intended to advance an opinion as much as to entertan? What’s simply wacky shit simply to get a laugh? What portrayals are ironic, and which are supposed to be accurate, if exaggerated for comic effect? In the end, does it really even matter?

Moderator intrudes:
Look, there can be a fine line between arts (Cafe Society forum) and political statements (Great Debates forum.) We presently have several forums where you can rant against your favorite political opponents, we don’t need another such.

A discussion of the “politics of South Park” is fine in this forum. A discussion about reality – such as rants against the extreme right, the extreme left, or the extreme center – are out of place here. Please, keep the discussion here focused on South Park and what you think are its political views… and let’s not get into politics in general. OK?

What year are you living in? Got an extra seat in that time machine?

  1. Learn how to behave yourself in polite Cafe Society, little boy. This is not the Pit.

  2. You can’t seriously claim South Park doesn’t have its thudding “After School Special” morals, with Kyle or Stan looking right into the camera at the end of the episode and telling us what we should think?

  3. Even intelligent people like Miller say their opinions can be informed and shaped by this show.

  4. if you read the other thread on this subject (do a search), you’ll see that I’ve stated I can indeed take a joke–when it’s witty. As in the transsexual jokes on Futurama and I’m with Her. This South Park episode was nothing more than an attack on Dr. Biber’s Colorado clinic and on transsexuals, who are called flat-out “delusional, surgically mutilated men.” That ain’t humor, it’s hate propaganda.

Stone and Parker’s own explanation of the movie’s theme was that the world is full of dicks (conservatives/militarists/unilateralists/people who take it upon themselves to trample over others’ liberties in order to do what they believe needs to be done) and pussies (liberals/people who whine about personal liberties and fairness etc.) and while dicks are nasty, their dick-ish behaviour is necessary to protect our well-being; whereas pussies are always contemptible and may be safely ignored.

Doesn’t seem like a pro-liberal philosophy to me

So far as I understand it, a libertarian’s attitude is that government should interfere with everyone’s personal decisions as little as possible.

Parker and Stone’s attitude is, so long as no one’s interfering with me, I don’t give a shit whether the government is interfering with other people’s personal decisions. So long as I’m doing well, anyone who’s complaining is a pussy.

To me, there seems to be a difference between the two.

I wasn’t offended by Team America as a partisan. I was offended as a movie fan! :smiley: