I am tempted to suggest you shoot it, I buy it. But I am afraid Farth Fatulent will set the price absurdly high, probably because he thinks he can keep it. Hey, it’s his face, after all!
That explains it.
And yet it doesn’t invalidate my cite. Your cite is not the final arbiter on language.
You are making a good point in terms of investment, but it still can be called a coin in terms of describing the shape and appearance of the object.
So yes, that’s something to remember for anyone who thinks buying these is a good idea. But it’s still okay to call them coins in other contexts.
I’m not talking about terms of investment, I’m talking about the terms as used by coin collectors and coin sellers (serious ones, not QVC types). A random person isn’t going to care if a pilliated woodpecker is called an crimson-crested woodpecker, but ornithologists and birdwatchers do.
Do you think it is valid to call a “challenge coin” a coin?
Okay, that’s valid and interesting, and it’s good info. But they’re still coins for non-sellers.
Of course! Because they are called coins.
It looks off because htye didn;t use trump for the model. They used this
“I guess I picked the wrong week to start a war.”
I thought it looked more like this.
Except less dignified and presidential.
I have never seen any of these types of items created by the mint being advertised as anything other than commemorative coins. It seems odd they would not want to use the jargon of the actual collectors, as they are (or would usually be) the primary audience.
Not very lifelike – the hands are way too big and the tie is way too short.
If you look at the US Mint site they have a glossary. For “coin” they have
A coin is flat piece of metal issued by the government as money.
For “commemorative coin” they have
Congress authorizes commemorative coins that celebrate and honor American people, places, events, and institutions.
Although these coins are legal tender, they are not minted for general circulation. Each commemorative coin is produced by the United States Mint in limited quantity and is only available for a limited time.
They are issued as money, and they are legal tender. If the flat metal disc produced by the mint has a value of, say, $5 stamped on it, then it literally can be legally spent for $5 (even if it cost much more than $5 to buy making that stupid). If it does not have a face value stamped on it, it is not a coin. The mock-up Trump flat metal disc doesn’t have face value on the shown obverse. If the actual produced metal disc does not have a face value stamped on it anywhere, it is not a coin. (And if it does have a face value stamped on it, it is literally legal tender to spend at that face value, even if the gold value is a thousand times higher.)
https://www.usmint.gov/learn/collecting-basics/glossary#accordion-b140012923-item-3830dfaf90
ETA they also have an entry for “face value”:
The face value is the sum for which a coin can be spent or exchanged. For example, the face value of a 1943 penny is one cent. However, it may be worth thousands or even millions of dollars to collectors, depending on its rareness and other factors.
Note that the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee, which has the job of reviewing the designs and themes of coins, was supposed to discuss this but the item was pulled from their agenda and the video of the meeting was pulled from YouTube. Donald Scarinci, chairman of the committee, said
Today begins a new day at the Mint and the end of the darkest year of my twenty years of service on the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee. Today, with Paul Hollis as our director, we hit the reset button and begin anew. I have received communications from the press about a gold America 250 coin with the image of the current president of the United States on the obverse. If you are here expecting to hear a discussion of this item because you saw it on the CCAC website or in the Federal Register, it is not on the agenda of today’s meeting for review. On behalf of a majority of my colleagues, I have removed it from the agenda. Speaking personally, anyone with an understanding of history and numismatics knows that the Declaration of Independence was our founders’ statement for cutting the ties between the colonies and the king. For two hundred and fifty years since that great document was signed with a few controversial exceptions no nation on Earth has issued coins with the image of a democratically elected leader during the time of their service. Only those nations ruled by kings or dictators display the image of their sitting ruler on the coins of the realm. God bless America and may God preserve our nation.
Someone pointed out the following, “Julius Caesar started off 44 BCE feeling pretty good: In January, as the story goes, the Roman Senate renewed his appointment as dictator, and the following month, they decreed he’d serve as dictator “for life.” They also announced that Caesar’s portrait would appear on coins—the first time any living Roman had appeared on currency. By March, he was murdered.”
Well at least it’s honest: “Liberty, 1776 to 2026”. They just missed the “In memoriam” that works typical follow.
The design proposals don’t show a face value because they hadn’t decided on a face value at the time, but they are in fact for an actual coin.
I think the recommended reverse for the gold coin was originally proposed for the other Trump coin, a base metal dollar coin. It can be seen as reverse #8 here with its $1 face value. (The Commission of Fine Arts recommended obverse #3 and a modified reverse #5 with the Liberty Bell removed for the $1 coin.)
Needs to be said:
DON’T PUT LIVING PEOPLE ON US MONEY OR POSTAGE STAMPS!
Also don’t name buildings, edifices, airports, parks, transportation systems, or cultural institutions after them!
A lot of people claim that I see in pictures overtly sexualized content. I hope I don’t, but in art, you see what you see.
To me, it looks like he is standing, leaning forward centaur-like, while getting railed up his pants for all eternity by an invisible Jeffrey Epstein.
“Let’s get out of this gallery. The artist sucks.”
I’m now picturing you as Brendan Fraser in ‘The Mummy’. If you’re insulted, then you don’t know anything about Brendan Fraser… and/or you’ve never seen ‘The Mummy’.
I absolutely love the irony here, intentional or not.
This is wonderful.
and
Those who choose to work for Donald have a trait in common----one increasingly impossible to ignore. And that trait is “ineptitude.”
“Stupid and mediocre” also seems to apply.
Seems fitting that he’s blocking “liberty”.
I don’t doubt your information. I just am surprised that I only ever see these advertised as commemorative coins. Does that mean they always are in fact legally money? Or just that the non-monetary ones are rarely advertised in the places I’ve seen?
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