This nickname is not for all atheist(like the ones that have respect for the beliefs of others and use the proper names to describe "fundamentalist and “Christians”)
No, these nicknames are only for the ones that use the terms “fundie”, “geezer” and “freakin geezers”. Now for the atheist that use the term “fundie”, “geezer” and “freakin geezer”, how would “Godless” or “faithless” or “shortsighted heathens” work for ya’ll as a nickname to describe your lack of faith in God?
Well, if you don’t like’em why not give Christians or Fundamentalist their proper spelling and respect as a group of people in society that have different thoughts and beliefs than you do. Now don’t go saying we use “fundie” because it is short for “fundamentalist” because I don’t see people on this board using the word “homo” for short of the word homosexual unless of course they are being duragatory toward the homosexual community for what they stand for.
Anyway, I am not saying I am going to refer to all atheist as “shortsighted heathens” or any of those other names because that wouldn’t be fair to all the atheist that don’t use durogatory names for groups that they don’t agree with. So I will continue to show respect for a group of people(even though I don’t agree with their beliefs or lack thereof) and call them what they wished to be called - atheist.
Well, I don’t use “fundie” or “geezer,” but frankly, “Godless” and “faithless” are perfectly accurate words to describe me. Doesn’t bother me a bit. Anyway, isn’t this a Pit rant, and not really a debate?
That’s funny–not two minutes ago I read a post by goboy on the “Political Correctness” thread where he calls himself a “card-carrying homo.”
I agree that “godless” and “faithless” are quite accurate and acceptable (though the latter makes me sound like the anti-heroine of a Warner Brothers melodrama, played by Constance Bennett).
As far as being a “shortsighted heathen,” I am actually nearsighted. Is that the same thing?
Well, I thought you were suppose to put God type thread in the Great Debates. And are you saying that this is not a debate I am correct in my thoughts?
Yea, but we are talking about Goboy here(btw I mean this as a compliment).
Bill, that doesn’t really work because Godless and “faithless” (in the sense of religious faith) aren’t epithets; they are perfectly good adjectives to describe someone who has no faith in God. “I like short-sighted heathen,” it has flair.
I don’t think “Fundies” is an insult; it’s just easier to type than fundamentalist. “Geezer,” I would agree, is not nice.
What gets me is that you Christians, are supposed to above this sort of thing. When some godless heathen calls you a Jeezer, why don’t you simply give the poor unregenerate soul a pitying smile, since God’s grace has given you the promise of salvation? Didn’t Jesus say when He was nailed to the cross, “Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do”?
In Luke 6:27-28, Jesus says, “Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, and pray for those who mistreat you.” He didn’t say, “Whine if somebody calls you a mean name.” If you guys, who have received God’s grace and the baptism of the Holy Spirit cry when you get called Fundie, how on earth could you stand up to the Tribulation(assuming a pre-Rapture Tribulation)?
In China, India, Indonesia, and other countries, Christians are subject to death or imprisonment for their beliefs. You guys can’t even take a little ribbing, and you own the country! Heck, the new President is a Fundamentalist! If you people can’t obey your Founder, Jesus Christ, how on Earth are you going to convert evil atheists like me?
“Godless” works great for me, even though I’m just a highly skeptical agnostic. It’s accurate, and it doesn’t offend me one bit. Of course, I’d just like to point out that everyone is (most probably) equally godless, so is it okay if I just refer to you hard-core believers as “delusionals” from now on?
Ok, if you wanna come up with some good insults, let’s think about this. “Jeezer” and “fundie” are just abbreviations, so you would have to respond in kind with something like “athie” or “nonnie.” If you wanted to get our attention, you could just yell, “Hey, nonnie, nonnie!” and see if we all Morris-danced over.
I think you should go for something more colorful, like “hell-bound harlot” or “Satan’s spokesmodels.”
True and I would out in everyday public. But for people that use the term on a board that has a goal of fighting ignorance it doesn’t seem right to use a slang word to descibe of a group of people that they don’t have the same beliefs as.
Hey, I don’t think you’re evil at all and those hope for you yet.
Originally posted by WiredGuy:
You really won’t be sure of that until you die will ya?
Lets say I have a dragon in my home and I invite you over to see it. And when you get there you don’t see it, I tell you its invisible. You then propose a bunch of tests and for each test you come up with I have reason that it will not work, ie its incorpreal, doesn’t produce heat, ect.
Now how long would it take you think that I am delusional and irrational, and everyone that I convinced that there is a dragon there is gullible.
This reminds me of poker night. Instead of playing “Mexican Sweat”, we rename it to whatever will offend the most people there. When we play in Buda, the game is San Marcos sweat. When the churchy friends come, we play Jesus Sweat. When we play at my house, we play Heathen Sweat. Heathen suits me just fine. It fits somehow.
i don’t use the term “fundie,” but i love all those nicknames.
especially “short-sighted heathen.” it reminds me that i’m concentrating on life on this planet, not on the pipe dream of eternity.
if you’re trying to offend us as a group, you might have a long road ahead of you. can’t speak for everyone, but i thought part of being atheist was having a good sense of humor. maybe developed from dealing with people who take things much too seriously.
call me “Future Placeholder Between the Onions and the Peppers on the Shish Kabobs of Hell” if you really want. i know you Christians like to deny yourselves a lot of pleasure, so don’t let me get in your way here.
Thank you so much for that image, Eve. My eyes have melted. Bill, I’m with goboy. Being called a few nicknames is not worth getting bent out of shape about. Certainly if people were using profanity to describe fundamentalists and evangelicals you’d have a legitimate beef, but you gotta admit, “fundamentalists” is a total pain in the ass to keep writing over and over. It seems to me that y’all have better things to do than worry about what a bunch of hellbound sinners call you.
This is really going to hijack the thread but oh well I’ll give it go.
First off believing or not believing in a dragon is not going to affect the outcome of your soul. But not believing in God and being wrong about it is. And what a tremendous outcome that is. Spending an eternity in cool comfortable place or burning in awful hot place called Hell forever. But if you’re right, you just die as you think anyway. I know I know this a Pascal’s Wager idea. Actually, I came with this too(without knowing about Pascal so can I get partial credit?).
First you make too many assumptions. First you assume that there is a soul and an after-life. There is no evidence of this and no supporting data. All we know is that at some point and time a human came up with this idea passed it on by word of mouth and eventually was written down with out any external support. ie it was pulled out of someones ass. The same goes for the concept of god and a god that rewards people who beleive in this concept.
Now lets take your Pascal/WB wager, I’ll even give you partial credit. Just about every religion states that they are the one true religion and that you must worship their god exculsivly or else burn in hell. Which god should I worship, your god? why? What of there are many gods? how do I know which one is the “right one”. Now since our onlty criteria for evidence of a god is that someone says so, I propse that there is a god but this god is different. This god punishes people that worship him and rewards people that don’t. I have no evidence of this other than something I wrote on a piece of paper while stoned out of my mind to enable me to connect with this god. So tell me which of the many gods, including mine, should I devote my corpreal time to save my non corpreal ass? why? and why not the otheres? and if this god is all knowing, all loving, and all forgiving, try to hurt me if I don’t believe even though he supposibly gave me a choice? and why is it of your concern if it is MY choice?
