Hey, I'm about to watch Iron Chef for the first time--anything I should know?

Not having cable, I’ve been deprived of the peculiar joy of watching even a single episode of the Iron Chef (yes, folks, not even a single show–total Iron Chef virgin here). All I’ve been able to do so far is peer through the bars of the fence at the faaaaabulous party going on inside.

But NOW! Channel 23 (WB) is getting it, in syndication!! Sundays, at 5 p.m., starting tomorrow! So I GET TO SEE IT!!

Many questions.

  1. Will I like it?
  2. It’s serious, right? I mean, it’s not like Martin Yan, or some kind of tongue-in-cheek cooking show spoof. Yes?
  3. Um–William Shatner? I’m, like–what?
  4. There are 300 episodes in syndication? Is there any way of telling whether Channel 23 will be starting with, like, Show #1, and going in sequence, or are they probably showing them out of chronological order? I hate it when shows do that. On Seventh Heaven (yeah, I know, [insert barf emoticon] but La Principessa likes to watch it), anyway, on Seventh Heaven from week to week they go from “twin toddlers” to “she’s a little pregnant” to “twin infants” to “she’s hugely pregnant” and back again.
  5. Anything in particular I should watch for? Insider hints? Are there any “Don’t go out to the kitchen for a sandwich during this” parts?
  6. Should I tape it? Is it the kind of thing where you can watch it over and over again and see something new every time, or is it more like Wheel of Fortune with stoves?

Um, Ducky its only the UPN version that’s got Captain Jerk, err, I mean, Shatner. The original show’s Japanese and dubbed into English. Have to say, I haven’t seen the Japanese version so I can’t comment on it. However, if its anything like the American version you might want to tape it on the off chance you get some good cooking ideas. And from what I gather, it really doesn’t matter if they show them in chronological order or not. I don’t think they continue an event from one episode to the next.

Ducky: there are two versions of Iron Chef, the real one (Japanese, dubbed and subtitled…often with…um…comic effects, of which some three hundred episodes exist) and the American Version, which I haven’t seen. It features William Shatner and one episode has been aired to date.

Assuming you get the Japanese version (with luck, you will!)

Chairman Kaga says “Allez Cuisine” (Hurry up and cook!) when he tells the chefs to start cooking. Since he’s trying to speak French with a Japanese accent, it’s hard to tell. Chairman Kaga is also a star of the Japanese equivilant to Broadway, having starred in Les Miserables and Jesus Christ, Superstar (I’ve got the JCS CD: He’s a great Jesus!)

Otah is a heavy-set guy in a tux who’s hanging out on the actual cooking arena. You don’t see him much as the camera focuses on the chefs and the food.

There are two regular commentators, Hatori (older, distiguished looking guy who sits on the left): a professional cook and who runs one of the premier cooking schools in Japan. He supplies the sous-chefs that appear, too. The other commentator is Fukui (during the battle, you’ll hear Otah yelling “Fukui-san” to get their attention). Fukui is an announcer.

The two of them are usually accompanied by a “BDJ” or Bimbo-Du Jour. Usually the BDJ is an actress of…um…dubious talents who is often a star of…semi-adult films. But not always.

There are four groups of episodes in syndication:
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[li]The original versions: I’ve never seen them but apparently they’re completely subtitled. No theme music, no English at all.[/li][li]The very first batch of dubbed episodes. Kaga is dubbed with a Darth Vader voice. The Iron Chef Japanese is a tall, young guy named Morimoto (wears a grey outfit) and there are 4 judges who sit on a long table with Kaga. This is around the second or third season from the end of the show and features Morimoto’s first appearance[/li][li]The next batch: Kaga is completely subtitled (he’s famous for his voice and raised a fuss). Morimoto is Iron Chef Japanese (and four judges) and this batch of episodes concludes the run of Iron Chef.[/li]
[li]The new batch: These episodes start at the original season 2 (season 1 was 1/2 hour episodes and won’t be shown)These are the ones currently showing on FoodTV. Kaga is dubbed again, but this time with a British Dr. Evil sort of voice. You keep expecting him to tie a BDJ to a railroad track somewhere (everyone hates the voice, but there’s some legal reason why Kaga has to be dubbed…something about a certain amount of change from the original episodes). These early episodes feature a short, older Iron Chef Japan named Michiba (wears a blue outfit). There are only three judges and they sit at individual tables.[/li]
In other words, excluding the original group of subtitled only episodes, FoodTV started with season 6 (or so) and showed 'em through to the end. This year, they’ve gone back to season two and are showing them straight through 'till they catch up with themselves.

Some other tidbits:

Bonito Broth is a sort of fish soup made from dried fish flakes. (Tuna?)

Fon Du Voe (I’ve spelled it phonetically) is Veal Broth

Yes, they do use caviar, truffles and fois gras like it’s going out of style!

“Natto” is fermented soy-beans and looks like rice-crispy treats from hell

If you’re squeamish, don’t watch Big Battle Octopus! If you’re easily nauseated, don’t watch Battle Soft Roe (soft roe=fish sperm…the male equivilant of caviar)

On overtime battles, they’re shown in a seperate episode (it’s not clear when you watch if you’ll be shown the overtime battle. You will be)

Yes, you’ve heard some of the theme music before if you’ve seen the movie Backdraft.

Hope this helps!

Fenris

Um…and to answer your specific questions:
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I think so, but it takes an episode or two to get the “feel” for it. Don’t dismiss it right away. The Japanese culture is different from our! (The tasters, for instance, are extremely concerned that the chef properly removed the smell of the item in question. Which is kind of backwards from what Westerners want.)

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Imagine professional wrestling meets a game show meets Julia Child. Despite that, and the fun and weirdness of it all, it’s very serious to the contestants as resturaunts will experience a huge surge in business if the challenger wins. It’s not fixed as far as I’ve heard (although I’ve heard rumors about the rematch with Bobby Flay). All true Iron Chef fans hate Bobby (“Smug little bastard”) Flay. :wink:

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No William Shatner, yes out of order but it doesn’t matter (just remember that Morimoto is the third Iron Chef Japanese, even though he’ll probably be the first one you meet.) The first one (has a beard and wears a green outfit) was in the first season only.

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There’s a series of battles against a cooking group called (something like the Ohtah group). They hate Morimoto and there were a string of about six battles. They’re great!

When they pull out the Fois Gras, it’s the equivilant of slapping someone across the face with a glove.

Don’t miss the last 20 minutes or so…the end of the battle and the Tasting and Judgement section are the best part of the show.

If you see Big Battle Peach, don’t miss any: it’s the dumbest Bimbo Du Jour ever and it has a weird soap-opera subplot.

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I record 'em and go back and regularly rewatch 'em. You won’t get recipes, but you’ll get some great ideas as to techniques and ingredient combinations that you’d never have thought of (pot-roast with peaches! Yum!)

Fenris

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*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose *
5. Anything in particular I should watch for? Insider hints? Are there any “Don’t go out to the kitchen for a sandwich during this” parts?

Whether or not you want to get stinking drunk, there’s a good list of things to keep an eye out for at The Iron Chef Drinking Game

It appears that DDG will be watching the US version of Iron Chef. I don’t get UPN (but get the Food Network - go figure) but according to reports, this is in no way comparable to the real Japanese version. As my friend (and Iron Chef fan) put it:

On the other hand, if you’re actually watching the Japanese version, then Fenris has summed up the show quite well. The chefs are completely serious about winning the thing - after all, their honor is at stake. But throw in two sports-type commentators, a field reporter down in the kitchen, a bimbo du jour, and Chairman Kaga, you get over-the-top campiness.

Morimoto rules, Bobby Flay drools. [sub]The rematch was fixed. Fixed, I tell you![/sub]

Allez-cuisuine!

One point about getting rid of the smell - I think this is only a concern when seafood is being used. You don’t want the stinky fish smell to overwhelm your taste buds.

I thought that too, but in reviewing some past episodes, they’ve said it about beef, pork, and some shellfish or other. I think it’s one of those weird cultural things, like the fact that we eat milk that’s so rotten it’s turned solid (cheese), which at least one panel member commented on.

Fenris

Bonito isn’t tuna. It’s…bonito. (I caught one in Panama when I was 5.) Bonito sometimes used to be called “dolphin,” but it was too easily mixed up with the endangered and lovable mammal dolphins. So, now they market it as “bonito.”

Are you sure? I thought “dolphin” (I know exactly the fish you mean…it’s yummy!) became “mahi-mahi”. I’ve never seen bonito other than in flake form.

Fenris

Hmmm. A quick search on epicurious turns up that bonito is indeed tuna. But I’m also positive that dolphin was called bonito. Veddy strange. I have also heard about dolphin turning into “mahi-mahi.” Perhaps 2 different types of fish are called bonito.

Oh well, I’ll just chalk it up to the myriad difficulties in using common names for flora and fauna. Latin, anyone?

Either way, you need a ton of it to make a decent broth. I bought some at an Asian grocery and it came in little individual serving pouches (“just add hot water!”) and it came out as tasting like slightly fishy water. Blech! Recently, since they’ve started to show the Michiba episodes, and since he’s the Wizard of Bonito, I’ve watched him and he’s adding nearly equal amounts of bonito and water, so no wonder it was so weak and yukky. I’ll try again!

But I still ain’t eatin’ natto.

Fenris

They recently showed the Battle Bonito - it was the actual fish itself, not just the flakes. It sure looked like tuna to me. Rather small tuna, but tuna nonetheless.

Fenris–I don’t think you’re supposed to eat the bonito broth straight. It is usually used as a stock that is flavored with other things, like kombu and miso.

Hmmmmm…

Miso + Bonito = One heck of a good idea! Yum! I’ll give it a try, but you still need a ton of the stuff. (BTW: kombu?)

Fenris

First of all, I’m guessing that the “just add water” stuff was supposed to be “instant broth,” so maybe it did come out right… Of course, I’m just speculating. The fish taste is supposed to be mild. But you do need a lot of bonito flakes if you’re going to go that route.

Kombu is a kind of seaweed. You put some in the water as you simmer the bonito flakes. You don’t eat it–it’s just for flavor. You can put it in with rice, too. You should be able to find it at any Asian grocery and also at many “health food” stores.

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Absolutely.

I had to take La Principessa to a children’s choir rehearsal at church during the crucial 5 to 6 p.m. time period, so I left the VCR all set up to tape, with the Better Half and Bonzo being given strict instructions not to forget to change it to channel 23 and hit “record” as soon as Jacques Pepin was done on Channel 12. When I came in the door at 6:15, Bonzo grabbed me and hauled me bodily over to the couch. “You HAVE to watch this, Mom, it’s like totally awesome,” quoth my son.

He was right. I’m hooked. I admit it.

But I’m disappointed that it wasn’t the original Japanese show. It turned out to be something called “Iron Chef USA - Showdown in Las Vegas”. So, is that just a single show “special”? Or is there more? There were four Iron Chefs standing there, and this Rock N Roll chef who rode a motorcycle into Kitchen Arena challenged the American Chef, the guy from Texas, who won because he put sparklers in his crab tower (at least that’s how it looked to me). And the play-by-play guys said that the other three chefs would “get their turn”. So–when? Or is Channel 23 going to to back to running Buffy at 5 p.m. Sundays? :frowning: :frowning: :frowning:

Please tell me there are more episodes.

Man, I love that show. Screw the American version; they’re still showing the dubbed Japanese version on the Food Network. Half the appeal is the wacky Japanese-ness of the whole affair. (Although getting William Shatner was a nice touch.)

Yea I have to agree

The Japanese kitsch is where its at. Shatner is not fit to kiss Chairman Kaga’s overly fruity costumes IMHO.

A real treat of the Japanese version is getting one of the judges to absolutely hate the food. I have only seen it once (cant remember dammit) but the bimbo just went off saying “This dish is really really REALLY BAD! I can’t eat it!” Then they showed a shot of the chef who kept face but anyone who can read eyes would swear the guy would have buried a cleaver in her skull

Anyone remember this episode? I think it was the kids day battle but I could be wrong

Truer words were never spoken.

Actually Michiba was the first Iron Chef Japanese, Koumei Nakamura was the second and Morimoto was the third. The guy with the beard is Yutaka Ishinabe, the first Iron Chef French. He was only on for a few months before Sakai became the second Iron Chef French. When Ishinabe was on the show the format was different too. There was a preliminary battle then a final battle. They probably won’t show those programs in syndication because of the difference.
The preceding information brought to you courtesy of the Official Iron Chef Book. :slight_smile: