What do you think? I know it is dangerous but if taken correctly it can burn up to 12lbs of fat in a week. Pretty cool. As much as I would like to see the abs in my stomach I don’t want to see myself in a coffin iykwim(if you know what I mean).
So give me the low down on it so I can make a decision to use or not. Btw I tried T3 with really good results.
Eat less and exercise.
If you’re interested in seeing your abs, you must know by now that:
You can’t selectively reduce fat in your abs. When you lose fat, you have no control over where it comes from.
The easiest, safest and most successful - long term - method of achieving a very low percent body fat is through rigorous diet management. Find a good nutritionist, preferably one familiar with the needs of bodybuilding.
You also have to strengthen the muscles in your back, or your strong, bulky abdominals will bulge out and you’ll look like a gorilla.
To really get “cut” (like those pictures in bodybuilder magazines - but who wants to look like that? They don’t look human.) you need to monitor your sodium intake and do freaky, possibly dangerous things like use diuretics.
You don’t need any “fat burner” drugs. Just lay off the pizza and beer, take a bike ride instead of watching TV, and watch the pounds melt away.
If taken correctly? What is the correct way of drinking arsenic? DNP works by uncoupling oxidative phosphorylation in your body at the mitochondrial level, which regulates how glucose is changed to ATP. DNP was used widely as a diet drug in the 1940s and stopped since so many people on it DIED from such a dangerous process. It simply is not healthy to lose 12 lbs. per week, and it is a piss poor idea to play around with the fundamental way your body metabolizes carbohydrates… not much different, in fact, from taking arsenic, which kills people by doing precisely the same thing.
I know that if you don’t stop switching and mixing medication, you’re gonna die, Bill.
You still on those Mexican Fat Burners?
My advice: Listen to Kamandi and Dr_Paprika.
-David
If you’re making a decision based on asking here, then no, you shouldn’t take it, because you’re not serious enough about learning about it first. If you were smart enough and serious enough to use something so dangerous without killing yourself, you would be asking on a hardcore bodybuilding board, and you’d be looking for technical articles and first-hand testimony, not random people’s opinions.
General purpose boards like this are fine for questions you’re just curious about, but for life-and-death matters? Get real.
Not this again.
Bill, you are seriously going to damage your health if you keep on taking diet pills. You want to see you abs? How are you going to see your abs when you are flat on your back in the hospital waiting for a kidney and liver transplant?
If you want to decrease your body fat, eat less and exercise more. The only way to permanently lose weight is to change your lifestyle. You are going to end up dead and your wife is going to have to declare bankruptcy to pay off the medical bills for the last couple of months you spent in the hospital.
There is no such thing as a safe, easy and effective diet drug. Such a thing does not exist.
Any diet drug that claims it will burn 12 lbs. of fat in a week is a fraud. Think of it this way: The average person burns 2,000 calories per day, without exercise. That’s 14,000 calories per week. One pound of fat represents about 3,500 stored calories. If you ate nothing, you would lose 4 lbs. of fat per week. Anything that claims to burn more fat is either a diuretic (and you can become dangerously dehydrated from the water loss), or flat out doesn’t work. The only way to lose fat is to burn more calories than you take in.
First,
Thanks for all the resonses so far. And David(aka Soulfrost) how the hech have you been dude? I have not seen you around in a while. Are ya still living in Dallas?
Now on to DNP yes I have done more research than just this question. Mainly from hardcore bodybuilders but I like to get both ends of the spectrum. And there are some smart people on this board so the additional information I figured would be helpful.
I am at a plateau right now. Pretty much done everything Kamandi suggested. I went from 27% bodyfat down to around 13.5% on a good day. 
But it has been real slow from there. So I have been reading about DNP at low dosages can really help get you over a body plateau. I haven’t decided to use it or anything.
And yes I am off the clenbuterol. I am under some pretty heavy stress at work and I was getting way to irritable on that stuff. I was getting a bit “snappy”. I would however do another cycle of T3 (cytomel) because that stuff does work good without any bad side effects like clen has.
But once again thanks for the responses.
13.5% on a good day? Kid, you’re just not trying hard enough. If your body has stopped responding to your current diet/workout regimen, you need to change it. Talk to a trainer - a trained, professional one, not some pumped-up, prancing fop that hangs around gyms picking up chicks and yelling “homuchyabench?”. They’re f***ing useless. Your trainer has to be aware of the needs of your body, not just what has worked for them.
Switch around your workout, add cardio, do some supersets, find completely different exercises to do, do them on diferent days, in a different order. Use machines for a while if you’re used to free weights, or vice-versa. Work out at a different time of day. Change workout partners, or get one if you don’t have one already. I change around my workout every few months just to keep from getting bored.
And if 13.5% is the best you can do, your diet definitely needs work.
Stay the hell away from the drugs. If you don’t, the drugs you’ll be taking after your liver transplant won’t be nearly as much fun.
Man, I thought I was doing good I lost that much weight in about 2 to 3 months. I only eat clean stuff which is really getting boring after this long but I still do it.
But now I got to ask you what is your bodyfat %? Hmmm?
Well, Bill, that’s the trouble with being a know-it-all like me. Sometimes you have more knowledge than you actually apply. A couple years ago I was in pretty good shape before a trip to Jamaica (I’m ecto anyway, so it wasn’t that hard). Now…ha, ha. Don’t ask. I’m still in good shape, but I drink more beer than I should.
But I’ve known lots of gym rats, a few competitive bodybuilders, and a nutritionist or two. The fundamentals are no mystery and require nothing but a little knowledge, an application of willpower and time. To change your body you don’t need a miracle pill, you need to change your lifestyle.
Going from 27% to 13.5% in 2 to 3 months sounds dangerously fast to me. Remember that you’re gonna have your body for your whole life. Don’t abuse it.
Bill!!!
You know, as annoying as you can be at times, I like seeing you around-you’re a pretty interesting guy. However, if you keep up this dangerous abuse of your body, you AREN’T going to be around. For your family.
Go to your DOCTOR before you do anything else. Quit messing around with this crap. Think of the example you’re setting for your girls. I know that’s a low blow, but it’s an important one. I’d kill my father if I saw him messing around with this stuff.
Kamandi, Did you just skirt my question? Hmmm? Come on man, what %bodyfat are ya? You can tell us?
Anyway it might have been 3 to 4 months and I did have a massive lifestyle change. I stopped eating junk at night was one of the biggest changes. I also ate as clean as I could heck I even eat my baked potato dry.
And Guin, what you wrote was almost touching(well except for the annoying part). And your last sentence just blows my mind…you would “kill”(a for sure thing) your father for messing around with diet drugs that “might” kill him. Too funny!
Like I said, I haven’t decided to do DNP I am still a long way off from even considering it. I do find it a very compelling compound that actually does what it promises to do. Sure a few people died but there is always going to be some stupid people that abuse a product with the wrong dosage and wind up dead.
Who you gonna listen to, Bill? Someone who knows what they’re talking about or someone who looks great but has osteoporosis, skin cancer, ruined knees and is a month away from a liver and kidney transplant?
If you’re looking for good advice, talk to a professional. If you’re gonna jawbone with anonymous dickweeds like me, you get what you get. How do you know I’m not a 4% body fat competitive bodybuilder? How do you know I’m not a morbidly obese shut-in?
In my wife’s opinion, most of my fat is in my head.
Wellllll, how good does he look again? Just kidding. 
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Well, I would hope you would tell the truth. Afterall, there is no reason to lie this is just a message board. But I was just curious because you didn’t seem to think 13.5 was that great and dang it it was hard getting there. So I was curious to see how well you have don’t getting it pass that level.
I mean the body has natural plateaus that it doesn’t like to go under without alot of additional effort in diet and cardio. I don’t mind dieting but man oh man how I hate getting on that rat mill for cardio. YUCK!!!
Yeah, cardio sucks. Since it’s summer, why not try bike riding, swimming, in-line skating, jogging or trail running? (A buddy of mine went from 280 to 195 (he lost 85 pounds!) by jogging 8 to 10 km per day and eating responsibly. No fad diets. No drugs. It took him 10 months.) I like rowing, myself. And don’t tell me you think aerobics is just for girls.
You know that it’s easier for some people to achieve a certain condition than others. That’s why my condition is irrelevant. You’re the one interested in seeing your abs. To be honest, I’ve never had my body fat measured. I also don’t weigh myself. I just look in the mirror. I’ve never had much trouble with muscle definition or vascularity, but it’s hard for me to put on mass. But that’s fine, because I’m not interested in getting any bigger than I am.
Make no mistake: 13.5% body fat is excellent for a man in generally good condition. But from your OP it sounded to me like you wanted to look like a competitive bodybuilder. From that unusual standpoint, 13.5 is not so great. That’s all I’m saying. I didn’t mean to demean you effort.
And that someone might be you, Bill, if you don’t stop this kind of thing. What does your wife say?
Originally posted by Kamandi
Those all sound it takes some effort. What about wakeboarding?
There is some stuff in Mexico that can help you with that. But that’s fine, because I’m not interested in getting any bigger than I am.
That’s cool. I would like to be cut up and all but I am not diciplined enough to be a competitive bodybuilder I just want to look hunky.
Originally posted by Guinastasia
Hey I might be “wild” but I am not “crazy”.
Not to much I have a big life insurance policy.
I would also be real leery about trusting “first-hand” reports from people on a bodybuilding board. Testimonials are highly untrustworthy - you don’t know what people’s motives are for recommending a product. Go with research in a reputable, professionally refereed journal (which means that the article had to pass muster with other professionals in the field).
I just have to say this:
Bill, put down those pills and eat your vegetables.