I have a cd (What are you Waiting For–FM Static) and the last song is a “hidden song” ie a song that is not on the table of contents and doesnt start at the beginning of the track. This song starts at 6 minutes and 38 seconds into track 11 and subsequently lasts for approximately 2.8 minutes. is there any way i can put this song onto a cd or alter it in any way to bypass the ~7 minute wait? thanks. happy hanukkah/chanukah
Jason ;j
Rip the song to your harddrive and use a wav editor.
its saved on Windows Media Player. i wanna modify it without downloading anything new. its windows XP home edition…
You really need a .wav editor. Windows Media Player is just that, a player. Not an editor.
Audacity is a good free .wav editor that will let you cut the silent space off the track.
If you rip that CD, do you have a really long Track 11, or is there a normal length Track 11 and some number of blank tracks followed by one nearly three minutes long containing the secret song?
Just wondering, as there’s a Dave Matthews CD that does this - ten or so normal tracks, then a whole bunch of zero-length tracks leading up to Track 34 or so, where the last song is hidden.
it just starts number 11, and there is 6 mins 38 seconds of silence before music. my DownHere cd has a song just like that, but its been so long, i forgot how long until the song. maybe 3 minutes?..
Undertow by Tool does the same thing, presumably so they could have the hidden track be track number 69.
There’s a hidden track on Dysfunction by Staind. The song part of track number 9 is about 3.5 minutes, then the hidden track starts about 16 minutes in. I converted it to a .wav file, deleted the first 16 minutes with a wav editor, then saved it with a new name and converted it back to mp3. As far as I know, that’s the only way to do that (unless you want to try downloading it, but unless they offer it for download on their website we won’t go there).
In iTunes, you can set the start time on the track as 6:38.00. It doesn’t actually excise the dead air, though.
…When I have had the problem of extracting such songs, I did it the simple way and just converted the CD audio into a wav file, and used a regular wav editor to chop up the resulting wav. <:P
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Cdex has a feature that will allow you to rip any part of a track from a CD. Just enter in the track number, starting time and ending time. I’ve used it before and it works great.
Of course, the reason for this is because that track is a song (which they had already written) entitled #34.
Just what I was about to suggest, I’ve used it for taking specific sound effects off a CD where there were a handful of tracks with many different sound effects on each.
Man, I HATE hidden tracks.
Sure they were kind of cool and original when they first hit CDs, what, 10 years ago? Now they’re just a copy of an idea whose time is long over, and make listening to the songs a pain in the ass. The whole idea of tracks is to prevent just that problem. Why on earth would someone want to make me fast forward through 10 mins of dead air to get to the next song? What is good about that?
This trend needs to GO AWAY.
Now if there were only some way to make every Dave Matthews track hidden… :eek: 
Unless you burn the track (with adjusted start or stop times) back to a disk, then it does remove whatever was before or after those times.
There’s Coheed and Cambria CD that does the same thing. Anyway, I second the recommendation of Audacity.
If your file is in MP3 format I would recommend MP3 Direct Cut, which can be found here.
Prince’s nine-song Lovesexy CD was released as one long track. I used MP3 Direct Cut to break the album into nine individual tracks with great results. I’ve used it to fade-in or fade-out tracks (good for eliminating applause from live recordings), and for your situation, to eliminate blank space at the beginning of a “bonus” track.
I’ve also used it to create completely blank tracks so that I can have the “bonus track effect” on CD mixes of my own. The program is free, updated regularly, and easy to use.
Nothing to add other than that **Wilco ** also had a couple “hidden” tracks on their *Summerteeth * CD. Luckily, the blank track preceding the hidden tracks was only about twenty seconds.
However, some of the software mentioned here might be good for removing the 12 minutes of electronic “drone” on their latest disc.
If your CD player supports index markers, you can often jump past the silent bits using them. They are also used for a kind of hidden track that’s before the first track on a CD, where the table of contents has the starting index offset, and you have to hold down rewind after starting the album to get to the hidden material.