'him and me' is ok

Yes, yes it really is.

I know we have the comma people, the apostrophe people and all kinds of grammar, spelling, etc. people.

I am a ‘him and I’ person.

It is not ‘him and I’, it is ‘he and I’ or ‘him and me’.

Someone does not give a book to ‘him and I’, they give it to ‘him and me’.
Somebody doesn’t tell a story to ‘her and I’, they tell it to ‘her and me’.

‘And I’ is not always correct in the sentence and it makes me cringe every time I read it or hear it. I hear it far to often on TV, by people who are supposedly educated (do you hear me Ramona from the HWNYC?). She is far from the only one.

He and I went to the store. He went, I went.
Tom invited him and me to his party. Tom invited him, Tom invited me. You wouldn’t say Tom invited I to his party.

I don’t want to be the language police but come on people. It’s not that hard to figure out and when I read a post with ‘him and me’ I figure it’s not worth reading.
I might be missing out on some good stuff. :smiley:

I don’t have anything to add, but I heartily endorse this post.

I think you mean “far too often.”

In spoken speech, it’s sometime hard to make the right split-second decision, and even the most learned broadcasters occasionally slip on this one.

In written text it’s inexcusable. I see it far too often at work. “If you encounter any difficulties please see Bill or I.”

Ouch.

Ditto. I’ve been “corrected” a few times for things like “please call either her or me when you get here.”

It’s things like “please call him or myself” that get my goat. Hyper-correct use of the reflexive pronoun needs to be stamped out.

I knew I’d miss something, it has to be that way. Whenever I correct something I have to make a mistake. Keeps me humble, or that’s what I tell myself anyway.

Hear, hear, OP! Agreed, though I can’t say I’m perfect at it - especially when speaking casually. I also have to join in on the hate for “myself” which I’m seeing more often and makes me want to strangle somebody.

What’s the OP’s opinion on She & Him? I liked Volume One but I felt Volume Two was derivative.

Da mon Tom invite I and I to him party, mon!</rasta>

Um, I think you mean the opposite. :wink:

You’re telling us that the objective case has a correct use? That “me and him” is correct in certain constructions? Stop the presses!

My pseudonym is Maus Magill, and I approve this OP.

An this reply, too. I have a manger who always says “myself” instead of “me”, and I want to smack him and tell him it does not make him sound smarter.

Does the Baby Jesus also want to smack him?

That should be him and me are ok. Geez, subject-verb agreement, people.

But yeah, I hear a lot of hypercorrect “…and I” constructions by people who should know better, including English professors. English professors!

As used in the OP, “is” would be correct, I would think. “Are” sounds completely wrong in trying to agree with the quoted phrase “him and me.”

Right. The phrase “him and me” is okay.

Actually, I’m trying to think of a case where “him and me are okay” would work where the verb reflects the pair of pronouns. I mean, that makes “him and me” the subject, so properly it would be “he and I are okay.”

Yeah, other than cheating by changing “him and me” to proper nouns like “Him and Me,” I can’t see a way to make it work. (We had a Chinese woman named “Me” or possibly “Mee” in my freshman year dorm. It took me a little getting used to constructions like “Me is playing a piano recital at 7 p.m. Do you want to go see it?”)

[Foghorn Leghorn]It’s a joke, son.[/Foghorn Leghorn] Evidently a poor one.

The thought did cross my mind.