His head just popped right off!

K belt?

:smiley:

I actually read American Sniper by Chris Kyle, and I will say most of what he wrote about reads pretty true (there was no mention of Ventura), mostly since he doesn’t go on and on about how badass he is/was - he does go on about how professionally most of the soldiers he worked with acted, and that his high count was mostly due to being in the right place at the right time.

I have friends that are SOF - they next to never talk about it with most people, although they have shared with me, mostly because I don’t ask about it but still have some understanding so they don’t have to explain everything.

When I first read this sentence, I thought “Sounds like he is using this book to promote this American Free Fighting style rather than tell a factual story.” Then I click on the link Army link and there he is in a martial arts outfit. And there is this line, “O’Neal currently teaches seminars on his own developed fighting style, American Warrior Free Fighting System, where he is a 10th degree black belt.”

So it turns out that the American Warrior Free Fighting (AWFF) system is a martial arts style that he developed himself and goes around teaching. My guess is that he embellished his Vietnam fights in order to promote his AWFF.

It’s important to note that he doesn’t teach his martial arts system at the Special Forces Qualification Course, he teaches at Robin Sage, a culminating event and simulated foreigh internal defense mission. The martial arts taught at the school house is the Special Operations Combatives Program, a derivative of Matt Larsens (also a former Ranger) Modern Army Combatives Program. Before that, it was Ron DonVito’s (a former Marine) L.I.N.E.S. system.

I don’t doubt this guy was a really a bad ass, and I don’t want to be too critical. I just think this part of his book is a combination of selfless promotion of his AWFF and the mixing up of several seperate events that actually did happen. He probably did throw a head at somebody, but not one that he just ripped off a living person. And maybe he did rip a head off a person for some reason, but maybe that guy had been dead a while. After 40 years or so, all of that craziness probably starts to blur together.

Warrant Officer 1 (WO1) are officers by warrant. But the next grades, Chief Warrant Officer 2 (CW2) and beyond, are commissioned officers. We still call them warrant officers, but legally they are commissioned officers and have all the same authority of other commissioned officers such as administering oaths and such.

I’ve literally never had anyone tell me they were any of those things. I mean I have plenty of friends who were Marines and whatnot. And in my previous line of work doing corporate data forensics consulting, I met a number of people professionally who were ex CIA, ex NSA, even former Halliburton. But none of them claimed to do anything more than what we did professionally - sift through databases and email servers and perform analysis.
Also, bullshit on pulling a mans head off. Try just pulling one of your fingers off. You can’t do it!

Here is his official bio on the Ranger Hall of Fame site:

There are only about 340 total Ranger Hall of Fame inductees, so it’s not something that is handed out lightly.

I jus_ did and now i_ is _eally ha_d _o _ype comple_e wo_ds. hanks o no_hin, je_k!

S__an_e_

Here in Minnesota, we even had one elected Governor who was a Navy Seal before the Navy had formed Seal teams!

You know, you’re pretty damn funny for a rocket scientist.

Hell - strike those last 4 words.

I think he is getting brownie points with the people he worked with by fucking with the outsiders.

Well, I can tell you that I also am a retired special forces commando, and I’m definitely calling BS.

When you really pull a guy’s head off, there’s a load popping sound; a bit like the sound you can make pulling a hooked finger out your mouth. There is also a sound, a little like a trumpet blast, at the point where the severed head cannons into something.
Finally, when an enemy soldier is truly terrified, the floor beneath them becomes momentarily friction-free, and they will just run on the spot, before finally disappearing at speed. That’s the image I see every time I close my eyes :frowning:

If he’d ever decapitated a guy, he’d have mentioned these things.

Didn’t they used to call Vietnamese soldiers “zipper-heads”? Maybe this is why.

I was with the Green Berets Special Unit Battalion Commando Airborne Tactics Specialist Tactics Unit Battalion (SPECUBCOMAIRTACSPECTACUNBAT). It was real hush hush. They called me Special Agent: Orange. I can tell you first hand that a head makes a sound like this when you throw it at someone.

“He was wearing my Harvard tie. Can you believe it? My Harvard tie. Like, oh, sure, he went to Harvard.”

Stranger

I wondered if it looked anything like this!:eek:

I’m sure he legitimately was a very brave and accomplished soldier, but he’s still lying about some of the details. You can’t pull a man’s head off.

Is nine combat engagements a lot? I assume it’s far more than a rank-and-file soldier will see, but it doesn’t sound like very many for a special forces operator who was deployed during an actual war. :confused:

He was wounded in nine separate engagements. There is no mention of how many he had where he didn’t end up with a wound. I am curious why there is no mention of any Purple Hearts though. According to that statement, he would qualify for 9 PHs.

Are Rangers usually deployed in Latin America long enough to get married and have kids?
It is common where soldiers are deployed for long periods of time - South Korea, Germany, Japan, Turkey, places where the US has permanent bases. You’d think Rangers would deploy and then return to base once whatever operation they were doing was over.
I suppose he could have been sent as an adviser (or “adviser”) to some Latin American military for an extended period of time - maybe those tours of duty would last long enough to marry and have kids.

But that just brings up the question of why a comrade’s body would have to be brought back home secretly, and why an enemy would care enough about where the body was to subsequently find and kill two civilians not really connected to the operation. And why, murdering two people who were within their power, they didn’t also murder the third. It doesn’t help that it just sounds like action movie tropes strung together.
Perhaps something bad did happen to his wife and children, but the brief story presented in April R’s link doesn’t make a lot of sense.