Hitler’s whole plan was laid out in * Mein Kampf.* It is a difficult read because it wanders all over the place but it can be read through in small doses.
So for a beginning, and pretty much an ending too, read the book. Hitler told everyone who was willing to read his book exactly what he had in mind.
I’ve never read his book…What did he say about his plans for the U.S ?
So what did he IMAGINE would be his goal? Conquering the world for the Aryan race or whatever?
(I’d rather shoot myself than even TRY to read Mein Kampf)
He didn’t have any long range plans for the US.
It seems to me that once the war in the west continued, which wasn’t in Hitler’s plan, and the US started helping Britain by furnishing escort for convoys he seized the opportunity to attack us in the North Altlantic which couldn’t be done before without a declaration of war. I don’t think Hitler ever intended war with the US because he had his eyes on the east and the Slavic countries for German liebensraum and stamping out communism in the Soviet Union.
Hitler had a low opinion of the US resolve and expected that we would be able to barely fight off the Japanese, if that, so he felt safe in declaring war which would give his submarines in the Atlantic a free hand against us.
Was it during WWI or WWII that Germany sought cooperation from Mexico?
World War I-you’re probably thinking of the famous Zimmerman telegram, when Germany offered Mexico help in gaining back territory from the US in exchange for Mexico fighting on the side of the Central Alliance. (Germany and Austria).
Of course, in WWI, while Germany was the bad guy, Kaiser Wilhelm II, as crazy as he was, was nowhere near as evil as Hitler.
It’s not much, but I seem to remember that the Luftwaffe vaguely hoped to produce a transport variant of their Me-264 bomber (which never made it past the prototype stage) after the war ended, to help transport German colonists to reclaimed (and newly captured?) German colonies in Africa.
That’s all I have.
Hitler did have a few plans to strike at the US, but they never came into fruition - firstly because they didn’t have the time and secondly because the Luftwaffe and Kreigsmarine refused to co-operate.
These plans include development of a long-range bomber, called the Amerika Bomber.
There were also plans to strike at the US using submarines - V2 missiles launched from the deck of submarines and tiny planes using the submarine as a platform for take off. These planes would be dumped over Panama and the pilot collected by U-Boat. Unfortunately, I can’t find a cite for this - I saw it on the history channel, so you’ll have to take my word for it.
In reality, the extent of German attacks on mainland America was limited to saboteurs - but they all arrested without committing a single act of sabotage.
Hitler vastly underestimated the strength of the US, saying “What is America, but millionaires, beauty queens, stupid phonograph records and Hollywood?”
These plans were thus doomed from the start.
Interestingly enough, there were also plans to attack the US in WWI.
100 million armed citizens. Nuff said.
Hitler had no plans to attack America for a LONG time, I think he even said it himself. However I do remember hearing that he was planning to ally with them for trade purposes once he had europe under his control, as well as Britain. No cite, so it might be crap or a bad memory :dubious:
The carriers “hid” until they had total air and sea domination. Until then, they were very vulnarable to air and submarine attack. Midway was essentially won because the US carriers remained hidden (because of luck and code breaking) longer than the japanese carriers. Even after 1944, they were under strict secrecy, as they hardly wanted to let the japanese know where they were going to strike, so to let the submarines and land air units have time to prepare. As for the Atlantic, there was no air menace, and the submarine presence had been effectively neutralised by air recon, radar and sonar and code-breaking from mid-war onwards.
Quite frankly your tone is not worthy of GQ. Keep it in the pit
Oh, so you’re a Mod now? Keep your opinions about my “tone” to yourself. 
And your “point” is still laughable.
Carriers were screened. yes, by a defensive shield of destroyers & cruisers, but not hidden.
As for your remarks about secrecy, that applied to all Naval vessels, from Carriers to minesweepers to garbage scows, during wartime operations. So you might as well say that the whole Navy was hidden. :rolleyes:
As did the victory. 
That is exactly what anybody who knows anything about naval wafare would have said. All the screens in the world will not save you against a determined and well trained divebomber-torpedo attack as was proved time and time again in Midway, Coral Sea, Leyette etc gulf. You forget (or ignore) the fact that it was very hard to spot naval forces pre satellite days. In the Coral Sea, the two fleets sailed within 70 miles of one another without noticing each other! Reconn planes frequently missed spotting anything, except by luck. In the main early naval battles in the pacific, the battle was decided by who spotted who first.
Strict radio silence unless essential was kept to avoid being discovered.
I really am at a loss what your point is? That the US naval fleet sailed round with all lights and radios ablazing, not caring if they were discovered? :rolleyes:
Just ignore him. The information he provides is generally inaccurate and useless, no matter how snarky he gets.
The Kaiser wasn’t evil at all. Certainly no more than any other leader of the time.
your post is full of contradictions.
Both parties had Radar (the Japanese had poor models, but they had them), & both sides had long range aircraft.
It is possible to miss locating a carrier, but not to hide it.
To hide a carrier implies that it would be located within the operational range of aircraft launched from the target, butr still remain undetected. After all, detection range by scout aircraft equals attack range by other aircraft. And the same applies to the carrier’s aircraft.
If you are using the term “hide” to describe a carrier that is out of detection range of patrol aircraft, you must also recall that it is therefore unable to attack, as the target would be out of range of it’s planes as well.
Carriers were defended, not hidden. They would use radar & scout planes to detect incoming aircraft, & then send their own planes to intercept & destroy the hostile craft. When this failed, escort vessels would try to protect the carrier with AA fire. The escorts would also provide antisubmarine warfare protection.
scm1001, if you are a former or active duty Naval officer, I will be glad to concede your point. But the only Naval vessel that does any significant hiding is a submarine. If carriers could hide, no submarine would ever have been built.
It really boils down to what you call “hidden”. Of course a carrier was fully visible within the battle fleet. However, great care was to taken to not give away the position of the battle fleet. If you dont want to call that hiding it is really up to you. I suspect most people would disagree, but it is not worth arguing about. Even when an attack was launched against by air against another fleet, it was by no means certain that the first fleet would be found (though usually was) unless the first attack was decisive and wiped out the other’s carriers.
Read the accounts of the Battle of Midway. There- as in the Coral Sea- any carrier that was found (by scoutplanes, radar was unreliable that early) was destroyed. The USA won that battle becuase we found the Jap aircraft carriers before they found ours- in fact they only found one of ours. That- and the fact that the Japs had hastily converted their torp bombers from bombs to torps becuase they HAD found our carrier, and thus their decks were awash with gas & bobms. Oops- that was BECAUSE the Japs hadn’t yet found our carriers (which were HIDING and praying they wouldn’t be found), and we had found their carriers.
True- way later in the war, after Japan no longer had an operational navy- the US Navy completely dominated the seas.
The Pacific is damn big. A carrier was effectively “hiding” there. Note that much of the time ships sailed “under radio silence”- why? Becuase they didn’t want to be found- which is “hding”. :rolleyes:
A carrier was very vulnerable, and thus had to hope it wasn’t found. This is “hiding”. Note that even the vaunted Bismark tried to “hide” from the british fleet for most of it’s cruise.
Japan didn’t have any radar at all until mid-1942, and no shipborne radar until 1943.
Japanes carrier borne aircraft had substantially longer ranges than their American counterparts, meaning they could theoretically remain out of range of American scouts and strike forces, yet find and attack American carrier fleets. And there arenumerous cases of fleets, both American and Japanese, hiding (or being hidden) under storm fronts.
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scm1001, if you are a former or active duty Naval officer, I will be glad to concede your point. But the only Naval vessel that does any significant hiding is a submarine. If carriers could hide, no submarine would ever have been built.
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Submarines were built long before aircraft carriers were ever conceived.
Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor, this is GQ. You’ve done this before. Do not do this again, or you will be banned.
You have been warned.
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In terms of military aims I can’t recall sources to cite readily to hand but generally Hitler had an aim to link up with Japanese forces in Manchuria by his invasion of the Caucus region, but it’s fair to say he under-anticipated the resilience of the Soviets.
Forgetting the issue of military objectives however, Hitler’s economic objectives had a convergence with those of Corporate America before 1942.
Both Germany and USA wanted greater access to global trade.
The French and British both built powerful colonial empires in which their colonies only traded with the mother nation. Canada for example, or Australia and New Zealand traded pretty exclusively with either Britain or other British colonial countries.
Both Germany and USA wanted to break down that system and create global free trade, with extraterritorial legal protection for property rights overseas, including the right to shift capital through different national jurisdictions, trade intellectual property, patent rights, repatriate income from such rights, etc.
For Europe Hitler proposed a single European currency with diminished national sovereignty for smaller nations led by only the big four Germany, Italy, France and UK, with all trade disputes and patent rights being arbitrated by a supreme court in Germany.
During early 1940 Roosevelt sent Sumner Welles to conduct shuttle diplomacy between European capitals to bring about Hitler’s new world order.
This effort was torpedoed however by British and French support for Finland in it’s conflict with Russia and the shipment of arms and mercenaries through Narvik. Hitler felt compelled to invade Norway to protect his supplies of iron ores from Finland and once this happened any chance of a negotiated end to the Battle of Britain were sabotaged.
What we have today with global free trade, unrestrained capitalism and the European Union are in fact the vision which the Nazis had for a modern world.
Rudolf Hess flew to Scotland in May 1941 trying to revive the Sumner Welles peace proposals.