Hoarding and untidiness in teenage rooms. Are they modern illnesses

Because plenty of people ( including children and teenagers) do in fact watch movies or do homework or use a computer or whatever … in their bedroom.

Since the factual question in the OP hasn’t been addressed for several days, let’s move this to IMHO.

Colibri
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Messy teenage rooms have been a thing for almost a hundred years. (that’s roughly when people could afford extra possessions)

It’s true there’s more electronic gadgets and accessories lying around.

But very little has changed since my parents childhood. Most Kids are naturally messy and that behavior has to be monitored and corrected by their parents.

I assure you, the vast majority of your American coworkers have. Now, I don’t like popcorn. It’s a pointless snack to me. But it still somehow ends up in my house every once in awhile. (Last time being for my daughter’s 5th birthday, somebody sent us a dozen bags of various types of flavored popcorn.) But even growing up, to European-born parents, we occasionally had microwave popcorn in the house.

You don’t eat popcorn when watching a movie? Is that just an American thing?

This thread gave me a craving for popcorn, which I am sitting on my bed, eating in front of my laptop.

Never having had Jiffy Pop, I must ask – is it REALLY as much fun to make as it is to eat? :wink:

Yes! That was the best thing about it! It was as much fun to make as it was to eat! You got a real feeling of accomplishment when the foil inflated.

Making stovetop popcorn with just oil and a pan is I think something of a lost art. We didn’t do it when I was a kid, but I learned to do it in college. I’ve met people who didn’t know that you could even make popcorn that way.

I’ve always interpreted this to mean hoarding gold or money, as a miser.
From what I’ve seen and read, modern-day pathological hoarding could not exist without the mass production of cheap goods. The Collyer brothers did have a number of interesting artifacts from earlier in their lives, but most of the space in their house was taken up by things like old newspapers. Langley Collyer saved years and years of newspapers, as he said, so his brother could “catch up on the news” when he recovered his eyesight.

I’m not following you here. What does eating popcorn at home have to with compulsive hoarding?

I apologize; I seem to have taken Nava’s statement out of context, and for some reason there’s no edit button.

Kindly disregard my previous post.

Extend this to automobiles when the kids are old enough. My friend’s daughter was called into the office when the school’s social worker saw her car; the SW wrote down the license plate number and was concerned that she might be living in her car, because she had so much junk in it. THAT prompted her to shovel it out.

Said friend’s stepson, who is the same age (literally 1 day apart!) used to have a biohazard sign on his door. Not a poster for the band Biohazard; literally a poster with that circle thing on it.

Re: popcorn. I’ve been known in the past to have popcorn for dinner. I like popcorn. If I’m feeling flush, I’ll splash out on some Garrett’s Chicago Mix. Yummers!

And even in extremely affluent families of yesteryear it simply didn’t occur to parents that each child would need his/her own room. All of Tsar Nicholas II’s daughters grew up sharing a room and IIRC even Queen Elizabeth II father & uncles shared bedrooms before they came of age.

The house I grew up in didn’t even have closets in the bedrooms; they were all in the hallway. I was never really allowed to let my room get messy, and buy the time I was a teenager I kept my room very clean out of paranoia that I mother would get tempted to straighten it up herself and discover things like my pot or assorted gay literature & erotica.

That must have been a very old house.

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I think you’re right, i.e. Dante was probably thinking of hoarding gold/money when he wrote that. But really, the principle is no different: hoarding, whether it focuses on money or material objects, is about a pathological obsession with acquiring and retaining things. In either case, the root cause is a distorted perception of the things’ value, or an irrational fear of running out.