Nope. From the cite I gave origionally:
But if you don’t like that one, this Opinion Dynamics Poll (wanrinng: PDF) gives pretty much the same result (61% of Americans think Hollywood is liberal).
Now, rather than criticizing my data, why don’t you cite some of your own to support the assertion that you made. After all, the burden is on you to support your claims, not me to disprove them.
Are you saying E-Poll doesn’t pay their poll respondents with “rewards”?
I think Liberal hit fairly strongly above. I think I would add to it that most successful actors, in addition to having probably had lean years, is probably very aware of the contingent nature of their success - being good and working hard are not necessarily enough. It is difficult to argue that there is not a fair degree of luck involved (if Harrison Ford doesn’t work with George Lucas on American Graffitti then maybe he doesn’t become Han Solo or Indiana Jones).
I once read an article musing over why hollywood superstars trend liberal and superstar athletes trend conservative - the actors know they were lucky and the athletes know they deserve everything.
(Of course the far more important question is why hollywood liberals attempt to spontaneously articulate their points of view (poorly) instead of working with a writer to come up with some solid material they both agree with and deliver)
I’m saying you have not provided any data to back up your opinion. If you don’t like my numbers, post some of your own. Show us some data that it is only the right wing who thinks Hollywood leans left.
Because it would be against every actor’s principles to actually work with the writer?
I think popular perceptions are irrelevant. People think Hollywood is libetral because that’s what they’ve been brainwashed to think. Reality doenst enter into it.
Show us some argument that factuality is established by polling.
If I were a huge actor, I would ‘lean left’ because of conservatives that attack Hollywood and the arts in general, and homosexuals.
Then there were those Macarthy hearings. Some actors, even ones that weren’t born at the time, are still a bit sore about that and the whole ‘Black List’ thing.
I would like to know why it is a concern. Sure, stars who go out and support a cause, either with money or with their fame, can help bring attention to that cause. No more so than any other famous person. (athlete, author, musician) Is the question now, are actors more likely to be left of center and why?
The concern, that I think, people have is that the Hollywood left is trying to influence the way people think. This just isn’t true, except for the company that I noted, and if anything, movies are fairly conservative.
They have cops shooting bad guys, dealing out the death penalty without a trial and the audience cheers. Even I cheer and I anti-death penalty. But when McClain drops Hans off the building at the end of Die Hard, I cheer.
If everybody did then it wouldn’t be illegal.
Hollywood is Liberal because they are footloose, because the Christian holy rolling moral authority doesn’t like the lifestyle that most artists lead. It’s that simple. There isn’t much more that needs to be said about it. Sex sells, that’s why Hollywood is Liberal.
I mean hell, it’s the only reason that I’m liberal. I’m socially liberal and fiscally conservative, in that I don’t want others telling me what to do. I think that’s where most Hollywood Producers stand on the spectrum as well. They are however big business, and there are some very conservative aspects to Hollywood as well. Anyone that thinks the media is either liberal or conservative is an idiot. It ain’t that simple, everyone who can afford the technology it takes to make it happen can be ‘the media’. Look at that Kirk Cameron series, “Left Behind”, it was crap so it didn’t get big. But Kirk Cameron is on the conservative end of the spectrum, and there is a multibillion dollar Christian profiteering industry.
Also the Gates of Hell are in Hollywood.
I’m willing to concede you that point. Even so, I don’t think dumb fuck is very courteous either.
That was I, and in my defense, I would like to make clear that I don’t consider that to be either a definition of the left, or a full description of it. But clearly, the left is the left in part because it advocates one or another Keynesian-type wealth redistribution scheme. Granted that it has become more and more difficult to tell the left from the right in that regard, since George Bush and the Boys on Capitol Hill spend like drunken sailors on Whore Row — corporate welfare is still welfare. But in general, it seems to me that the left almost universally advocates at least some market restrictions that have nothing to do with tort or crime — things like minimum wages and guaranteed incomes or entitlements. Isn’t that correct?
I think you misunderstand. I was not attempting to prove that Hollywood leans left. I’m not sure how you could prove that. You might be able to prove something along the lines of “the top 100 paid actors/actress in hollywood are registered Democrat/Republican”.
What I was disproving, was Fear’s statement that it was only the right wing which thinks Hollywood leans left. However, if you don’t like my data, I’m perfectly willing to simply reject his statement out of hand until he proves it. How would you suggest he go about doing that?
Irrelevant to the truth of the OP’s assumption, yes. Not irrelevant to the point I was refuting, since that concerned what the popular perceptions are.
But you can put it into your movies without actually doing it IRL.
In theory, that is. 
That any of this might under any concept of fairness be summarized as a “centrally planned economy” is remarkable.
Right state, wrong town. They’re in Sunnydale! 
Libertarians have notorious difficulty in distinguishing Keynes from Stalin.
One may be courteous to one whom one considers a dumb fuck. Of course, it is not polite to call someone a “dumbfuck” or “dumbfuckistani” to their face, but I do not know if identifying the red states as “Dumbfuckistan” constitutes such. Clearly, “Dumbfuckistan” is a metaphorical state, and would not include intellligent members of such states. I, for example, live in a red state.
To some, if it’s not laissez faire capitalism, it’s a “centrally planned economy.” :rolleyes:
To be fair, he called Bush a dumb fuck, he didn’t explicitly call the people who voted for him that. And remember, Bush voters are “gucks”. You have to get the terminology right!