As the “some” apparently being referenced, I’d just like to say that I do know the difference between Keynes and Stalin — a very funny line nonetheless! — and that there are increments between robber baron capitalism (which I submit is wrongly being called “laissez faire”) and culture purging communism. I did not mean to imply — and in fact did not imply — that to lean left, one must advocate that we all wear grey flannel and suck from a central teat. If we can set aside our caricatures of one another, we might be able to come to an understanding with respect to the OP. On the other hand, if there is indeed no difference whatsoever between left and right economic philosophies, then what we need to address is why there is a perception rather than why there is a leaning. And if we’re going to deny a difference in perception as well, then we may as well meet in some other thread.
And with respect to what Sentient said, it was beneath him on every level thus far spun. That is not to say that he deserves no slack, because he deserves the maximum possible slack. I quite naturally dislike insults to people like my sister, whether they are cleverly constructed to be indirect or not.
Some of the justifications for putting some of those people on that list are … interesting. For example, if you look at the “here’s why” for Adam Sandler, you’d find that Al Franken could be included as well.
Not saying that they are not all conservative - I don’t know. I do know the evidence is dubious for some of their selections. Just an observation.
IMO, the best and brightest kind of political film out of Hollywood is Citizen Ruth, which lampoons the causeheads on both sides of a divisive issue (abortion, in this case). http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115906/
I’m dubious about that list. I clicked on one of the “see why” links and got a list of celebrities who have served in the military. That hardly seems sufficient evidence to conclude that someone is conservative.
I also clicked on the “see why” links for Ann Margaret and Billy Bob Thornton and they led to stories about general “support the troops” sentiments – Ann Margaret thanked a Vietnam Vet for serving the country and Thornton sent baby wipes to the troops after he had heard that some were needed. Again, no indication of general political sentiment. The “see why” for James Earl Jones led to a pre-war story about a talk that Jones gave in which he said that war is sometimes necessary and that he had supported the actions in Bosnia and Somalia and the first Iraq war hadn’t been finished. It doesn’t give an overall picture of his political sentiments; nor does it indicate that Jones would still express the same degree of support for the Iraq war.
Egads. I ask one little question in IMHO and next thing ya know, it’s a GD. Not quite what I bargained for.
For any who read the OP and think, “what the hell kind of a proposition is that”, keep in mind that it wasn’t a proposition, it was an IMHO question. I think Hollywood (and a previous poster was right in thinking that I meant the actors themselves, though I was also considering much of the content that they deliver) tends to be left of center. I’m not going to argue it, I’m not going to support it. I never intended for this to be in GD, and I sure as hell ain’t prepared to defend my perception. Of course, being the open-minded person I am, I am willing to be convinced that I’m wrong.
So, there were some interesting opinions in here, which is all that I was really after. I’ll continue to watch, though, just in case more interesting stuff comes up. You folks have fun!
Yeah, I had the same thoughts. Supporting the troops doesn’t make you a conservative, and a bunch of those listed are on there for that reason only.
However, I just became a bigger fan of Adam Baldwin (“Jayne” from Firefly/Serenity). Following the ‘here’s why’ link lead to a firefly chat board where he’s a participant. Clicking on his name and looking at his user profile has a list of his favorite quotes:
Anyone who favorably quotes Thomas Sowell and Robert Bork is definitely a conservative or a Libertarian.
Unfortunately, he must not be getting a lot of work - he’s got 13,000 posts on that board since November 2002!
I think you missed the point of the quote. I read it as a critique of sophistry. Using your intellect to construct arguments sans facts, for political purposes - something we’re probably all guilty of from time to time.
Tell me what’s politically partisan about either one of them. Do oonly liberals like Edward R. Murrow? Is anti-McCarthyism a “liberal” poistion?
What’s partisan about anything in Syriana? I don’t even remember it mentioning political parties. Those kinds of divisions are seen as basically meaningless in that movie.
I’d really like to hear an answer to this question, like you, because in my experience, the only people who have objected to “Good night and Good Luck” are the far right wing, usually accompanied by something about how horrible communism is. It gives the implicit sense that McCarthy was a hero to them. Without a specific criticism otherwise, I can only assume that to be the case(or some claptrap about cloony being a leftist, which still doesn’t address the question).
I didn’t ask for a list of reviews. I asked what was politically partisan about either movie. You have failed to anwer that question, but thank you for playing.
— and that there are increments between robber baron capitalism (which I submit is wrongly being called “laissez faire”) and culture purging communism. I did not mean to imply — and in fact did not imply — that to lean left, one must advocate that we all wear grey flannel and suck from a central teat. If we can set aside our caricatures of one another, we might be able to come to an understanding with respect to the OP. On the other hand, if there is indeed no difference whatsoever between left and right economic philosophies, then what we need to address is why there is a perception rather than why there is a leaning. And if we’re going to deny a difference in perception as well, then we may as well meet in some other thread.