Deep Space 9
I just saw an old rerun that I’d never seen before.
It was the one where Jetsia-dax(sp?) runs in to an ex-wife of hers from a former life.
Well, anyway to make a long story short; Jetsia totally makes out with another hot chick!!
I’m just wondering if anyone knows what season this was. Plus, I just felt the need to share…
Yes, I know, I need to grow up… 
First off, it’s Jadzia. If you’re going to be a Star Trek geek, at least get the names right. 
From what I remember, Terry Farrell said she is a very straight hetero, and the kissing scene was very very very uncomfortable for her.
I wonder…how does it work when the Trills have children. Are subsequent hosts not allowed to contact previous hosts’ children? Dax has had several children, being both a father and a mother, and I would have like to see Jadzia run into one of them.
The episode was “Rejoined” and the woman Jadzia was kissing was Lenara Kahn. Kahn and Dax, the symbionts inside Jadzia and Lenara were lovers in previous host’s bodies and even after all this time, they still have feelings for each other, hence the kissing which wasn’t quite what I’d call making out.
And that would be strictly taboo, ivy, as the kissing was as well.
I have a Trill question, too. It might be TMI so I put it in a spoiler box.
[spoiler]What would happen if a Trill without the worm thing had to have the worm put in his body because of an accident to another Trill. So they put the worm thing in him and now he is a different person. So after the operation is over they take him home and put him in bed. Nobody thinks to inform his family or friends right away. Now his girlfriend goes to his home (she has a key or the 24th century version of a key) and goes into his room and decides it might be fun to wake him up with some oral sex because they do this from time to time. So she starts in and he wakes up and it totally disgusted being pretty much a different person and having not given consent he wants her arrested for sexual assualt.
Is this a sexual assualt? What should the local police do?[/spoiler]
The joining doesn’t change the host ***that ***drastically.
The first part of your post happened between seasons six and seven when Ezri Tigan was pretty much browbeat into accepting Dax after Jadzia died and there was no one else around to take the symbiont before it died. Even at the end of the season (and series), she was still warring between being Ezri Tigan and Ezri Dax. So the process is eventual, not instantaneous.
Actually, I think they were married. Dax at the time was Toral Dax, and died in a shuttle accident.
I liked the episode where it was revealed that fully half the Trill population is a candiate for joining, and the Trill gov’t has to keep that secret or the symbionts will be fought over as priceless commodoties
I wish they could have explored that further.
Torias. And yeah, they were married… I don’t know why I said lovers.
Karl:
A very small number of Trills are joined to symbionts. Those that are have gone through a very rigorous application and testing process before being approved, at which time they’re prepped to recieve their symbiont and put on a waiting list. Joined Trills are monitored very closely, and there is always an unjoined Trill who has passed the screening and is waiting to be joined in case of an accident.
So the scenario you describe couldn’t happen. The family of the Trill to be joined would know quite some time in advance that the joining would be happening. In most cases, they’d know well in advance which symbiont and when the transfer would take place. In the case of an accident or murder (as with Jadzia), the recipient would be like a patient waiting for an organ transplant; they’d know that it would be happening, but not exactly when.
This wasn’t possible in the case of Jadzia, because she was so far away from home at the time she was killed, so Ezri had to accept the sym or it would die. It’s implied that the life of a sym is valued much more highly than the life or rights of the hosts. From a purely mathematical standpoint, this is true. Letting Dax die would in essense be letting nine people die, while the host body is only one.
Second, you seem to be assuming that the symbiont takes over the Trill’s body completely. This isn’t true. The symbiont is an extra rider that shares it’s hosts body. The host’s personality still remains, but it’s being highly influenced by having the personalities and memories of all who came before.
This is according to DS9, or course. On the episode of TNG that introduced Trills, it was strongly implied that all Trills are joined, and that the worm was the sole source of the personality, that the hosts were vessels for the sentient worms. I got the impression that the bodies were in essense grown in a laboratory. It was as if humans had perfected cloning and brain transplant surgery, resulting in a society in which healthy blanks are grown to recieve the brains of those whose bodies have been killed or contracted a deadly disease.
I knew which episode this was going to be about before I saw the OP.
As a strictly hetero female myself, I have to admit that was pretty hot. Then again, I have always found Terry Ferrell to be very attractive. She would definitely be one of my “If I were a lesbian” crushes.
Rather a lot about the Trill was changed or refined during DS9 from the original TNG episode that introduced them (The Host), starting most obviously with the make-up (a big bony-looking prosthesis replaced by the spots).
–Cliffy
Well, not really… there would had to have been some sort of development for the Trill in TNG for DS9 to have changed much.
As seen on TNG, they were never meant to be anything more than an alien of the week but the concept was interesting enough that it got carried over to DS9 where they got fleshed out pretty well. The makeup was an obvious change though and was done to highlight Farrell’s natural beauty… they filmed her in the TNG Trill makeup originally but Berman didn’t like that and made them come up with a new concept.
There’s never been any reference to the TNG Trill since.
What if a Trill without a symbiote and a Trill with a symbiote are in a car accident and it catches on fire, so the one with a symbiote is burning to death, but the one without a symbiote isn’t, and he happens to be carrying a phaser…
Dude, you can’t just jump in and argue both sides, ya needs to pick one. The scenario could happen, because it did happen, exactly as you described it. The difference lies in two points:
Getting joined is like getting selected for the Olympic team. There’s no way you’re not telling everybody you know, ASAP.
As stated above, the symbiont is mostly along for the ride, particularly at start.
Can and did. Will continue to do in the future as it meets my needs.
… feed him the flaming Klingon.
It was a pretty drastic change for the guy who (temporarily) stole the Dax symbiont from Jadzia in “Invasive Procedures” (2nd season).
I heard once that there are two races of symbiants, that’s why the difference in make up.
But I assume that’s just a retcon to cover the change and not sure if it’s cannon or not.
Oh. Sorry. My bad. I forgot this was Cafe Society.
Go ahead and disprove your points all you want.
He was obviously mentally unbalanced and more than a little covetous of the symbiont so I tend to think of his reactions similar to that of someone who’s never had a drink and then gets smashed on their 21st birthday. Not only do they overdo it, they more than likely exaggerate the effects too.
That’s my rationalization of it anyway. It obviously clashes with how Ezri adapted to Dax and her integration is more important and integral than his was.
Yeah. It’s just fanwanking.
::: The Moderator hems and haws ::: Look, I’m not sure where the line is drawn, but there’s a point at which the outlandish hypotheticals become too outlandish, as Smeghead here satirizes (I assume.) I think this thread is about DS9 episodes, not about the wildest things that people can imagine. If you want to start a thread of ridiculous plots, that’s fine, but let’s keep this one more or less on topic, OK?
[sub]…as if a Star Trek thread could ever stay “on topic.”[/sub]