Honda Airbag Recall Number 10,009

[gvntofly]

How many times will Honda recall the air bags?

I mean how hard can it be to engineer and produce an airbag that works and doesn’t put your life at risk in a 15 mph fender bender?

This will be my FOURTH time to get a replacement airbag. I am beyond frustrated.

[kanicbird]

Is it the same airbag or a different one in a different location in the car?

[control-z]

I found one reference to a second recall for some Hondas: Honda Recalls 1.1 Million Vehicles for Second Time | Fortune

The recall, is part of a larger recall of Takata airbags, which can hurl shrapnel if they explode after deteriorating over time due to heat and humidity. The issue has resulted in at least 23 deaths and hundreds of injuries. Honda says it is aware of one injury that is linked to the issue.

What makes this unusual is this is the second recall by Honda for this defective part. Many of the initial fixes still contain dangerous parts that could result in explosions.

[asterion]

The thing should be a case study in executives not listening to the scientists and engineers they supposedly pay for their knowledge. Airbags used to always be inflated using sodium azide. Azides are reactive functional groups that love to decompose and evolve nitrogen. NaN3 is quite toxic, and although it’s not much of a danger in spent airbags, Takata went looking for alternatives. They considered various tetrazoles, which can also decompose to give off lots of nitrogen. They eventually went to ammonium nitrate, which has the benefits of being cheaper, less toxic, and not inherently explosive. But NH4NO3 has five different crystal structures. Changes in temperature and moisture can change its structure and led to reactions that were more vigorous than expected.

It’s not really Honda, it was Takata. Blame Honda for going with the cheapest supplier if you like, but they didn’t make the originals and they didn’t make the replacements.

[gvntofly]

@kanicbird

Is it the same airbag or a different one in a different location in the car?

Same airbag now the 4th try to get it right. They just recalling the recalls.

[gvntofly]

@kanicbird

Is it the same airbag or a different one in a different location in the car?

Same airbag now the 4th try to get it right. They just recalling the recalls.

Right Honda is not the manufacturer but the one who chose to use and reuse Takata airbags, thus ultimately I blame them. I’m not driving a Takata car but a Honda. If I used and reused a supplier as inept as Takata I would lose my job.

I care about this because in a high school parking lot in my city, the same high school two of my children attended, a schoolmate of theirs had a tiny fender bender and died because the air bag deployed and shot shards of metal into her carotid artery. I don’t want to end up like her.