Honda motorcycle vs. VW. (Sweden) True?

From here:

Wrecks from fatal collisions, often demonstrating the dangers of driving while intoxicated, are fairly common in the U.S.; but they are, of course, cleaned of… biological artifacts. This display features a Honda motorcycle embedded in a VW, the aftermath of a motorcyclist who was riding too fast. I can think of three possibilities:
[ul][li]The wreckage was cleaned of any remains and then reassembled into its original condition for display;[/li][li]The bodies are still inside;[/li][li]The wreck was staged.[/ul][/li]Case 1 is plausible. As with real wrecks in the U.S., the wreckage could have been sanitised for display. Case 2 is right out. Nobody would do that. Case 3 would involve a testing facility that could launch a motorcycle down a track at 250 km/h so that it could strike the target vehicle at a predetermined location. I see no reason why this could not have happened.

So: Are the photos of an actual fatal crash? Or are the photos of the result of a staged test?

While I can’t give any answers to the question posed, your item #2 may well not apply. Although Sweden may be different, can’t say as it is years since I lived there but wouldn’t put it past them, I have a long series of photos of a fatal crash in France, with the French police and ambulance services in attendance, of a very compressed Citroen C Crosser showing the remains of the driver inside and much blood leaking out all over, then the corpse being removed, in two main and several minor pieces. The body was severed at the waist and had one arm and one leg missing IIRC.

Some of the photographs were used in a campaign to raise awareness for the law against using mobile phones while driving - which it was proven that the driver was doing when he ploughed into the lorry.

No, I am not posting the images!

How do the French photos compare to the Swedish ones? One thing I notice about the first photo is that there is little evidence of fluids (blood, glycol, oil, fuel). Another thing is that there is a guard rail in the background. Does the road continue? Or does the guard rail extend all the way? If the latter, then a motorcyclist would reasonably know that he had to make a turn and would have slowed down. (Not necessarily, but reasonably.) That would suggest staging. On the other hand, there is no evidence of a track, and the setting does not look like a test area. (Of course I’m referring to the top photo, as the others are in an auditorium. :wink: )

I don’t think we can assume the orientation is that at the time of impact, given that the text says the car was not only flipped but also pushed by 10 feet.

BTW what does the note “The white bit, at the right-hand side of the hole in the side of the car, is the clue.” under the first picture refer to? I only see the rear end of the motorcycle there.

I received the photos and story in an email (not the website I linked; that’s from my search for the authenticity of the email) entitled ‘Do you see the motorcycle?’ I presume the ‘hint’ refers to that title.

Can’t say that this accident is real or not, but I have read an accident report where a Trans Am abandoned on the side of a highway rolled across the road late at night. A speeding motorcyclist didn’t see the car in time and broadsided it, embedding the bike within the car and striking with such force the car overturned. Needless to say, the rider didn’t survive.

I would suspect the accident is real, and afterward they simply stuffed the bike back in the car for display purposes.

The French ones were very high quality and IIRC there was quite a bit of oil and coolant on the road.

I have been looking for them and can’t locate them I did spot them a couple of weeks ago but have reinstalled both machines since then.

I’m sure they will turn up but my filing tends to be a bit less than perfect.
ETA: The bummer in this story is that my eldest son is in hospital with multiple injuries having come off his motorcycle last night. He was lucky compared with others.

The driver may not have been on the motorcycle when it hit, either.

That bike looks like a Honda VFR400. It makes only about 60hp so there’s no way it can do 250km/h. Maybe 180 or 190km/h max.

Also I can’t imagine the car rolling over from the crash. Cars get t-boned by semis and do not roll over.

I gotta say that is right. The taillights and shape of the rear body are dead on for a VFR400