Honestly, Honesty

Do you agree that there are many genetic differences among humans which do in fact lead to different proteins being synthesized?

Do you agree that there are many genetic differences among humans which do in fact lead to different proteins being synthesized?

Nevermind

Most reasonable post you’ve made all thread.:slight_smile:

What did Honesty do that was dishonest?

Huh? What does that even mean? Can you link to the post Evil Economist posted that offended you?

What did Colibri do that was dishonest?

Thank you in advance.

Well, yes. Obviously. That’s introduction to human genetics 101.

I fear that people on both sides are using this simple fact to argue bullshit.

Thank you for answering.

And you agree that if Honesty had stated or implied otherwise, it shows a stunning lack of comprehension of human genetics on his part?

That’s a reasonable fear. One way to deal with this kind of fear is to look at the actual underlying facts of the situation.

It’s not changing the subject, genius. You brought up your stupid rules of debate by mentioning that you don’t interact with someone. You had no reason to do this, as you can simply just not interact with them.

Since you brought it up in the thread, it becomes fair game to tell you that we think the whole thing is stupid–particularly the part where you constantly tell us you aren’t engaging with us.

Also, I deliberately tried to get on your list in the past, when I was much more annoyed with you. (I thank you for becoming a less annoying poster by avoiding a topic that offends everyone and you know you won’t convince anyone of.) So I do think the idea that you use your rules to avoid debates you can’t win is at least possible.

The other possibility being, of course, that I’ve failed in breaking your rules since I did it entirely as a form of insult. But, still, that does make your rules rather subjective and open to abuse, even if unintentional.

I disagree since the topic of this thread is Honesty. When I mention that I don’t interact with someone, I generally keep my statement short and I do not respond to the person further in the same thread.

Well it depends what you mean by “win.” I have no interest in engaging with someone who insists on weaseling, strawmanning, and so forth.

In a sense, you can’t “win” against someone who doesn’t argue against your actual position but instead argues against a position he wishes or imagines that you would take.

I agree that it’s difficult to apply the rules perfectly consistently but I really do try.

In other words, someone who employs your own tactics.

BTW Colibri, as he is ignoring you I wonder, is **Honesty **completely off the wall on his post about protein syntheses? It seems to me that he is more on the money but I want to hear a little from a biology expert like you.

I do not engage with this poster because he’s an utter fucking moron.

Ridicule, however is certainly on the table. Such as how he tries to consistently apply his “rules”. The only consistency I’ve ever seen him display is in interpreting his rules in such a way that it allows him to duck out of a debate he’s losing, and unilaterally declare victory.

Please provide 3 examples of this with cites quotes and links. (Of course I don’t seriously expect you to back up your claims, but I feel honor-bound to give you a chance.)

You are so funny. This isn’t GD, it’s the pit. Everyone knows you are a dishonest cowardly moron who couldn’t debate a shoe. It doesn’t need a citation.

While you’re waiting, could you please answer my question from earlier. by showing where the posters broke your rules.

I’ll repost it here.

This would really help us in terms of evaluating your judgement and credibility.

Once again, thanks in advance.

Thank you!!

Lol, I’m free to ask for backup and you are free to make unsupported conclusions.

But none of this changes the fact that Honesty is stupid.

If you are referring to Honesty’s post #12 in this thread, it is quite correct. Most point mutations are either silent (involving redundant codons), affect non-coding parts of the DNA, or cause lethal changes in the protein synthesized. The majority of genetic differences between populations are going to involve such invisible variation, rather than differences that code for proteins. Other genetic differences may result in differences in gene regulation rather than actual changes in the proteins produced. This is not to say that some of the genetic variation between populations doesn’t result in differences in some proteins, but it’s not the predominant kind of variation.

At least from that post, Honesty knows more about genetics than brazil84 does, but I think the average raccoon knows more than brazil84.

Incidentally, brazil84 can’t put me on ignore because I’m a mod. The downside of this is that I can’t put him on ignore either.

Now there’s a humorous idea.

“This post is hidden because (poster name) is on the Global Ignore List.”

:smiley:

Thanks Colibri, indeed my motto is to consult the experts before going about declaring some one to be stupid, as **brasil84 **demonstrates once again he fits the definition of the Dunning-Kruger effect. He is unskilled and unaware of it. Although after several years of seeing him it is clear that he is worse, he is a willful ignorant.

vBulletin does have that facility, called Tachy goes to Coventry.

We don’t use the option here, but it would be particularly amusing to use it for brazil84, since he must have most of the rest of the board on Ignore by now.