Horrific discovery on deceased abortion doctor's property

[Dewey_Finn]

@nearwildheaven

@Dewey_Finn

Medically preserved human remains are horrific? I take it you’ve never been to a medical museum, a medical school or even a high school biology classroom?

Granted, I don’t know the whole story myself, but no, they are not. One of my interests is medical history, and the Mutter Museum is on my bucket list.

http://muttermuseum.org/

Many years ago, I worked with a woman (who has since died herself) who had a miscarriage, and the baby was so perfectly formed that the doctors wanted their permission to put him (the pregnancy was far enough along that they could tell) on display at a medical school. Of course they gave permission.

It’s the whole context of the thing.

So why did you use “horrific” in the thread title? Why didn’t you note that the remains were medically preserved? And why suggest what the doctor did to get his license suspended was “too horrible to comprehend”? You seem to have overblown the whole story.

Edited to add that the story from the NBC affiliate station says, “In 2016, Indiana’s attorney general alleged Klopfer violated state law nine times by failing to provide qualified personnel to monitor patients undergoing surgical abortion procedures.” Bad, yes, and a violation of the law and medical practices but not exactly “too horrible to comprehend.”

[Atamasama]

@Bryan_Ekers

So when they load them on a truck to take them away, can they use a pitchfork?

Of course not, they’re given the proper dignity of a snow shovel.

[kirkrapine]

So, dude was a hoarder.

[kambuckta]

It’s nwh. She’s obsessed with all things mommy and relationship pages, despite being single and child free/less, depending upon your take.

[MrDibble]

One of my friends growing up, his mom had the foetus of his stillborn sibling in a jar on the matlepiece.

[Atamasama]

@MrDibble

One of my friends growing up, his mom had the foetus of his stillborn sibling in a jar on the matlepiece.

If you shook it did snow swirl around?

[kayaker]

@MrDibble

One of my friends growing up, his mom had the foetus of his stillborn sibling in a jar on the matlepiece.

Did they set a place for little Timmy every evening for dinner?

[DocCathode]

@nearwildheaven

One of my interests is medical history, and the Mutter Museum is on my bucket list.

http://muttermuseum.org/

If you want to see the preserved liver of Cheng and Ang (the original Siamese Twins), the Mutter Museum is your only bet. I’ve been a few times and I love the place.

[Skywatcher]

@mhendo

The remains were medically preserved, and while the doctor had lost his license, none of the stories I’ve read indicate any evidence that the abortions were performed after he lost it.

This recent article from the Post-Tribune suggests that, although no connection to the remains has been made, something hinky was going on:

A filmmaker who interviewed the doctor said Monday that Klopfer used to visit at least one of his former clinics for years after its services were shut down by Indiana regulators.

According to Mark Archer, a producer and filmmaker from Fort Wayne, Klopfer would visit his former Fort Wayne clinic every week about five years after the clinic shut down, arriving on Wednesday, spending the night at the clinic and leaving Thursday morning.

[Skywatcher]

@MrDibble

One of my friends growing up, his mom had the foetus of his stillborn sibling in a jar on the matlepiece.

My mom kept fetuses of stillborn kittens. ISTR one with two heads.

[Bryan_Ekers]

According to Mark Archer, a producer and filmmaker from Fort Wayne, Klopfer would visit his former Fort Wayne clinic every week about five years after the clinic shut down, arriving on Wednesday, spending the night at the clinic and leaving Thursday morning.

Well, he just needed some time away from the kids.

[Machine_Elf]

@WolfpackJeep

But I thought all the dead aborted babies were used to make vaccines!!! Or they were sold for PARTS!!!one!!

(Sarcasm, obviously, but I’ve had religious folks tell me both of the above are a vital part of the “abortion industry.” And yes, I know that “baby” is a medically incorrect term for what was found.)

Well, there’s this bit of news from several years back:

Horrifyingly, Ground Baby Pills Are a Real Thing :eek:

Snopes hasn’t touched this, but it was widely reported on at the time by mainstream news outlets including ABC, BBC, and CBC.

[Atamasama]

@Machine_Elf

Well, there’s this bit of news from several years back:

Horrifyingly, Ground Baby Pills Are a Real Thing :eek:

Snopes hasn’t touched this, but it was widely reported on at the time by mainstream news outlets including ABC, BBC, and CBC.

Meh… This is coming from the country where even the government thinks small personal fans left running in a room overnight can cause suffocation and/or hypothermia. I’d take dramatic medical news out of there with a (possible ground-baby-fortified) grain of salt.

[Loach]

@Dewey_Finn

Medically preserved human remains are horrific? I take it you’ve never been to a medical museum, a medical school or even a high school biology classroom?

Maybe I’m old fashioned but I tend to think that human remains properly used and maintained in an educational setting is different than than having them stacked in your living room. Horrific might be a little hyperbolic but it is bizarre.

[Skywatcher]

Will County investigators will have a press conference at the Sheriff’s Office at 1:30 (CDT?) today.

[bobot]

This morning there was a report on the radio that mentioned the remains were in the garage. Maybe the “hoarder” speculation above wasn’t off the mark.

[Skywatcher]

Something interesting from the press conference:

The remains were found in 70 cardboard boxes, and they were in small, sealed plastic bags containing a biological formula to preserve them.

The remains will be transferred to the Indiana Attorney General’s Office for further investigation.

[SteveG1]

@BlankSlate

Or perhaps a restaurant.

This

Baby food. Made from real babies

[bobot]

@Skywatcher

Something interesting from the press conference: The remains will be transferred to the Indiana Attorney General’s Office for further investigation.

Oh shit. Before I heard the garage thing this morning I was picturing a hidden room that you had to move a bookcase to get to, dimly lit and filled with shelves of medium sized glass jars which were themselves strangely lit with a greenish light.

[Kimera757]

How are aborted fetuses supposed to be disposed of? Does anyone have a source?