"House of Horror"- some people need to be hit with an ax

The OP implied that the Governator was a pretty nasty fellow, and I find it a bit hard to believe that the Governator could be anywhere as bad as someone who willingly put on a Nazi uniform. Unless, of course, you happen to think that being a member of the Republican party is the same as being in the Nazi party (quite clearly, it isn’t, even if some members of the GOP seem intent upon aping certain aspects of the Nazis).

Is it that hard to spot a tongue-in-cheek remark?

Actually, that was me.

See, this is why we need transparent cheeks. “Intelligent Design,” my ass.

Actually, an SDMB poster living in Saudi Arabia, Paul in Saudi, has said that he has heard from doctors that incest is quite common in Saudi Arabia. Since the women are kept cloistered and can only see males who are their relatives, the inevitable happens. It happens a lot. I don’t know to what extent it is consensual, though, if consensual is a term that means anything in that culture. So your point is even more powerful, in some instances.

A little off topic, but am I the only one who saw the picture of the douchebag and immdeiate had the scene: “David, you shit in the bath? :: thwack! :: You do not shit in the bath!” pop into his head?

…So, I’m the only one then.
(The movie isn’t that old.)

Shine?
Yes, now that you mention it.

Ran out of Viagra?

Yes. Me, too.

I live among some Islamic families that have pretty strict ideas of gender roles (and note that Islamic practices vary widely), but it is nowhere near the same thing.

Women are respected, although that respect is often limited to their role as homemakers and mothers. They have the comfort of their family and generally spend a lot of time with their aunts/sisters/parents/female friends. Indeed, they are rarely alone. They generally have the (not great) option to return to their family home if the marriage is truly unbearable They celebrate holidays, buy fashionable clothes, follow soap operas, dream about their children’s future, attend weddings and funurals, read books and generally do the things that people do the world over. Think of it as a mix of 1950s housewives and teenage girls with REALLY strict fathers. Maybe not the fullest, richest life possible (though they take one look at me with no child and say the same thing) but it’s not the same as being locked in a soundproof prison and raped by your dad.

But then, what really is? Some experiences just can’t be duplicated, no sir…
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And proving yet again that everything in the world is connected to Thailand in some manner, we now see that this is where Josef Fritzl enjoyed vacationing. Story here.

The strength of this poor women is phenomenal, though. To keep on surviving all those years, to raise her children (who she taught to speak and who were apparently in surprisingly good health), though she could hardly be blamed had she hated them, and to never give up and to keep looking for a way out - that is a remarkable woman.

Edited for spelling

I’ve thought of that, too. Also - the amount of time she spent underground is roughly the span of my oldest daughter’s life. So I think about that too … year after year, as my child grew and passed milestones of her life … all that whole time this poor lady was a prisoner. It’s so painful to think about. :frowning:

Why do they keep saying he fathered seven of her children?

She had more than seven children, by different men? Just something that is bugging me.

This whole thing is nasty though. I can’t imagine.

I believe it’s trying to make the distinction between the other children he fathered with his wife. Perhaps it’s a sloppy translation from original German reports, since so far nothing has referred to her having any children prior to being locked up at the age of 18.

That’s a guess. Eg/ “He fathered seven children through her, and he fathered four (?) with his wife.” Or “He fathered her seven children as well has his wife’s children.”

I don’t actually remember how many kids he had with his wife, so I just made up the number 4.

That hit me too on the way home from work. She’s two years old than I am. She was imprisoned when I was 16. Since then, I’ve graduated high school, college, started a career, had two children, moved cross country twice, bought two houses, sold one, bought a rental property, bid farewell to four beloved dogs, and saw one of my two children graduate high school and am two years away from seeing the second one graduate.

Just damn.

Yes, I think it’s just a poor choice of wording in the report I linked to above. Before this one, I’ve been hearing only that he fathered seven children with her, not of hers.

My idea of the right punishment for this guy (and many others) is to develop a tech so you can go back in time and record the anguish suffered by their victims, and perhaps by their loved ones as well. Then pipe it into the scumbag’s brain. On an endless loop. Amplified perhaps. And strap 'em down so they can’t kill themselves. 'Cause they’re gonna want to, but they don’t deserve that release. They should know what they’ve done. They should know it a lot.

I thought that up for the scumbag who did in Jessica Lunsford. I would have loved for him to experience what his victim did.

Indeed. Every time I think I’ve found a reason to believe in humanity, the world gives me a reason to think of it as a festering shithole of suffering and oppression.

On second thought, I’m just happy she and her children are free now. Human beings are incredibly resilient creatures. I have faith they will be able to move on with their lives. Imagine what a gift to them will be the things we take for granted every day.

Allow me to offer a dose of counter-balancing humanity. It’s not earth-shaking, or anything, but I think you’ll enjoy reading it.