Fact- there was an Illuminati organization
Fact- it operated through European Masonic lodges as well as other groups
Fact- there are religious &, by some definitions, occultic elements to Freemasonry that many religionists have regarded as inconsistent to their own beliefs.
vanilla- whew! to your most recent post.
Have you read RULE BY SECRECY by Jim Marrs?
the A Ralph Epperson book you referred to earlier may be THE UNSEEN HAND or THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
Yes, read all 3 of those books.
Thanks for your information and understanding. If all posters were like you…
Awwwwww! blushing & stubbing toe in the dirt
The New World Order? Hah!
Be careful, lady, please? You nearly lost yourself a lunch date, there. Remember what Christ said about what goes into the body versus what goes into the heart in Matthew 15. I personally extend heart to cover mind as well.
Peace,
CJ
What? You would’ve cancelled our lunch date if I still believed this stuff?
Hee Hee Hee,
Long ago and far away, I used to work with David Icke.
Well, a couple of times, and “work with” is putting it a bit high, I was in the studio while he did his sports reporter bit. He’d been a goalkeeper, got injured (IIRC) and took up reporting (He still seems to sport the same mullet he had then judging by the pix on Aro’s link.)
He always seemed a tad odd, but no odder than many others in the biz, so it came as a bit of a shock to hear that he had declared himself to be the Messiah! (And a Messiah in a purple shell-suit, to boot)
His predictions for the coming “End of World” scenario he had been sent to warn us of was impressively detailed, - It stuck in my mind that the first sign would be the disappearance of New Zealand on a particular date, which came and went.
Now I’ve been in many Irish bars, in many different countries and the Kiwis behind the bar must be coming from somewhere 
Anyway, after the world resolutely refused to stop spinning at its duly appointed hour, he disappeared for quite a time.
Then, Bugger me! :eek: He turns up in America peddling some conspiracy thang, just as detailed as his messiah shtick, with lizards and pyramids and Masons out the Wazoo.
Only this time he’s careful not to mention any exact dates 
It seems to be his most lucrative career change yet. (Though I think some Jewish groups, seeing coded anti-Semitism in some of his ideas are trying to stop his tours and even sue him).
Oh, and he likes purple. - A lot
This is hilarious.
FYI, this thread is more than ten years old.
And closed.