Thanks for the news updates, guys. I had seen that Trump was actually up to 51% on 538, but now it’s at 50/50 per bordelond’s post above.
Meanwhile, we have some good new polls in for Harris today:
Farron Cousins does his analysis of various polls. He is a consistent optimist, but I don’t see much wrong with his reasoning (the video title is an exaggeration, but welcome to YouTube…):
Here’s something I said waaayyy back in this thread: that Trump is too sick and weak now to pull off a steal after this election, and there is no central fascist authority in place to make it happen, either. Salon.com catches up and says the same thing :
Has the polling even caught up to Trump’s absolute meltdown, on which the legacy media are finally reporting? Arnold Palmer’s schlong–I mean, really? Also, Trump had an event in Florida, a Latinx forum–playing defense much?
I continue to feel good–not about our country, which is full of morons voting for the fascist orange christ–but about our chances in the final two weeks.
Very good point, as well as the link you posted later. GOTV is the meat and potatoes, unglamorous work that actually gets people to the voting booth. We’ll find out if her advantage in this area is enough to compensate for the utter ludicrousness of the American electorate.
I hate to do this but - cite? None of us, that I know of, are medical professionals who have actually conducted a full, in person, physical and mental health exam on him. For all we know he may just happen to be an obnoxious, toxic bully who looks and sounds like utter shit. He may or may not become incapacitated, he may or may not lose it so badly that even his supporters will dump him, or he may or may not drop dead. All of the predictions that any of those things will magically happen before the election are simply Pollyannish wishful thinking.
Trump can still easily win, or lose, at this point; it’s simply up to the whims of a massive, uninformed, ignorant, selfish percentage of the electorate.
I posted the Salon article. Obviously, it’s a matter of perception and opinion.
My opinion is that he’s not in good enough shape to lead a steal if he should lose. That is not based on supposing that he will be completely incapacitated. I posted waaayyy up in the thread videos in which doctors do discuss signs of dementia in Trump. You can look up the Shrinking Trump videos on the Really American channel on YouTube if you are interested.
I’ve seen videos of a panel of experts discussing his fitness for office. The conclusions reached were devastating and frightening, however, none of that matters because Trumpists do not give a rat’s ass about anything factual that is negative towards Trump.
Unless or until he actually dies he can still win this election; all the facts in the world are irrelevant.
Yes, but that’s besides the point of whether he’s well enough to pull off a steal. I agree that his followers are nazi fucking idiots who will follow him to oblivion.
Pull off a steal of the election. Like “pull off a heist.”
“Pull off” means “try to do something difficult and succeed.” (In case you are not a native English speaker. I do not have enough context to know either way. Former ESL teacher here…)
I think it’s clear that Trump was leading the effort to deny the election results and steal it back in 2020. We have, for example, the recorded phone calls, and he otherwise seemed to be directing things. So I disagree with the implication that his minions were just doing it on their own back then.
I don’t think Trump has the strength or will to lead as he did in 2020.
Now, maybe your implied meaning was not per the above but rather that, despite the fact that he led in 2020, he need not this year, and his minions will just do it. But I don’t think that’s the case either. A lot of his people got in trouble for what they did in 2020, so I think there will be a reluctance to act autonomously.
I do think there’s a very good chance that some local officials will try some bullshit, especially those troublesome idiots in Georgia, but I agree that anything they try will fizzle.
Do you mean as related to “stop the steal” and/or win the election through illicit means, as he is constantly trying to do? I am a native English speaker (essentially born and raised in Ontario, Canada), but there could be subtleties and nuances here. But notwithstanding all that, I still believe that a Trump win is very possible. But it’s also very possible that I am too boggled that nothing he does or says perturbs or disgusts any more people than it does.
My belief is that this time his supporters have been setting things up to try to undermine a D victory for a while now, and have half baked plans, with his encouragement. I think the plans wil be half baked and the Democratic side is prepared.
Yes he had a direct hand last time, phone calls, etc.
If there are any Latinx-identifying voters paying attention to the news, this story won’t help Trump:
Of course Trump’s spokespeople are denying the story. And right-wing media are playing up those denials:
I don’t like clicking on FoxNews but did in this case, so I can report for those who’d prefer not to give them traffic: their ‘reporting’ is about how the author of the Atlantic piece, Jeffery GOLDBERG, is disliked and despised by all and Everybody Says He’s A Terrible Journalist. (None of which seems to be factual.)
Anecdotally: I voted early yesterday and noted a family of six people speaking Spanish and wearing Trump gear, standing so as to block the entrance to the early-voting station. Not deliberately, probably; they were just so excited to have voted for Trump. shudder
Yeah. I’d say ‘they’ll be sorry’ but given the human capacity to rationalize away truths and defend the ego against self-blame, they’ll likely find a way to blame Democrats even as Trump’s goons are hauling away their family members to work camps.
Expectations of Democrats—from the media, especially—always seem to be higher than expectations of Republicans. A Democrat who expressed negative views of fracking four years ago is held to a higher standard than a Republican who changed his views on cryptocurrency, early voting, and TikTok last week.
The way of the world. (And of course when Trump has people hauled away to work camps his propaganda WILL be ‘the Democrats made me do this’—so there’s that.)
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