How can I become a real-life super-hero?

I don’t mean it in a “figuratively speaking” way, but of course I’m not talking about heat vision or super-breath either. When I say “super-hero” I’m thinking about technological heroes like Iron Man and Batman (and yeah, I know that Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne are insanely rich and can buy any gizmo they fancy, but that’s beside the point).

The point is, today, with 21th century science, you can turn a common person into a modest super-hero? Maybe with bionic implants, exo-skeletons or wonder drugs that increase the senses, speed and strenght? Science can manipulate DNA and built a better, stronger, faster person? What do you think, what do you know?

And please, if Cecil ALREADY answered this question (I’ve searched, found zippo), just post the link here and leave me alone. I’m tired of being flamed. I’m asking politely, okay?

I think Dark Angel is one of the best shows on TV, that’s what I think.

Dude, in an era where Taco Bell won’t let their taco shells be made of genetically-modified corn, it should come as no surprise that the government, the populace in general, and the scientific community are all pretty squeamish about manipulating DNA in such a way that it will produce humans of desirable traits. Even if it could be done consistently with predictable results (and I don’t think the technology is anywhere close to that leverl right now). So don’t look for genetically-modified superheroes any time soon.

If you really want to be a superhero, do some noble act of kindness. Volunteer to help out with your church’s youth group. Adopt a foster child. Spay or neuter your pets… the list goes on.

With steroids and hormones you could increase your size, speed, and strength significantly above those of a normal man. However this would leave you with long term health problems. You could be Batman who has no super powers but is rich and know how to fight, if you are rich and know how to fight.

Sorry there. It has already been done with the selection of a compatible embryo to produse a sibling capable of providing bone marrow for its sister.

Thats both a manipulated entity and a superhero if you ask me

Well, you could exercise herculean self-control, and quit starting juvenile threads on message boards.

#@$%&!!!

Juvenile? Why, because it mentions super-heroes? In case you haven’t noticed, this is basically a general question about the advances of science and how they can be used to improve the human physiology. The image of “real-life superheroes” is just a device to pose the question in a more interesting way, and at the same time create an specific visual idea of a contex… oh, what the hell, I GIVE UP! You flamers are toooooo narrow-minded to be on a site that’s supposed to be “Fighting Ignorance Since 1973”.

You know it would seem that a thread that is juvenile wouldn’t attract comments or viewers. Cut the guy some slack. It’s in the GQ area and I like the question, hell I’m 30 and I think about becoming a superhero all the time. Maybe it’s a guy thing. Aside from that I think what he’s asking is why don’t we have cops wearing advanced armor, using super-weapons and using physical enhancing drugs.

I’ll try to give you some answer Smart.

The main reason that John Q Public does not go out and fight crime in armoured battle suits is pretty complex but I can break it down for you.

First there are some private citizens who do “fight crime” in vaious ways so lets break those down: Neighborhood watch groups are citizen crime fighters and legal. But the higest tech item the usually carry is a cell phone and a flashlight. Then you have on the opposite end of the line people the police call “vigilantes” (IE: The Punisher). These are people who find those doing ill deeds and “punish” them. These people can have guns and sometimes wear bullet proof vests. Sometimes they work alone and sometimes they work in groups. They are also criminals because what they do is act as judge, jury, and often executioner. See we live in a society that has a lot of laws and legal process. Hence the term “innocent until proven guilty”.

Now, lets say you are super rich and can afford to have an armoured vehicle made and special weapons and a battle suit and trained in all kinds of hand to hand combat. What then or rather, why not? Well most truly wealthy people are too busy working at managing money to do all this stuff or to even want to. Also the fact that if they get caught they will likely end up in jail and lose a lot of that wealth. Also, what would happen the first time you took the Batmobile out on the freeway? You would get busted for driving w/o tags. You can’t register a combat car, it isn’t legat to have vehicle mounted weapons (case in point is people who get mace nozzles mounted on their outer doorframes getting busted for it.). So you can’t have hero item #1 your car. Now what about weapons? Well if you search the threads you will find out that most special weapons are illegal to posess, let alone carry. You could build your own I guess but you need the money and the desire along with the ability. Try to find someone with the mentality and wealth of Batman and the desire to do like him. Not too likely in the real world. How about armor? Did you know that in some states it is illegal to even own a regular bullet proof vest? Same problems as above.

Ok, so why don’t cops do all that stuff? It’s legal for them to have the armor, guns and the car so why don’t they.

Well they do and they don’t. SWAT teams are about as close as you will come to a superhero type in the real world. They have armoured cars, special weapons and special training as well as better armor than regular cops. But they have more rules than even regular cops. So it’s not like they can just go out and see a drug dealer and take him out. In fact if you see a drug dealer and shoot him as a civillian you will be better off than an off duty cop doing it.

The reason we don’t make all cops SWAT cops is a matter of money. SWAT cops cost about 30 times as much to equip and train as regualr police. They also don’t make all that much money. So it takes a rare person to want to even be a regular cop and be able to do that. Imagine how unique a SWAT cop is. There just aren’t enough people willing to do it for the money and risk. If you have the brains to survive as a SWAT cop I’ll bet you can make a hell of a lot better living in the private sector.

As for real cartoony shit like Iron Man’s armor, well that would only work if we could make flexibly metals that were super light and super strong. Sorry, but no such material. See, if you take solid metal that is strong enough to repel bullets then you got a lot of weight to lug around. Ok, so you make it out of carbon fiber or kevlar(which really does not weigh that much less in the thickness needed to stop bullets)and make it out of that. Ok, now articulate it becaues it does not flex. Well you can make it fit tight which means each one will have to be custom made but at least you get about oh 60% of your original mobility (think about it, your “outer skin” is regid and depends on flex joints for articulation) or you can make it a bit loose so it’s a one size fits all deal and then you get to keep about 20% of your original mobility (kind of ruins all those years spent in Kung Fu class). You can’t make the suit powered. Artificial muscle fibers do exist but are weak compared to the real thing and gears or hydaulics are too bulky, remmeber the loader from Aliens? Try to fight crime in that. All the bad guy would have to do is run away. Which remonds me. The only thing that made super heroes “super” was “super villains”. criminals today run away from cops. Whats the point of a “super hero” who does nothing because no one wants to sit around and battle him.

High tech weapons do exist and are being implemented but they cost a fortune and don’t have much to offer. An accurate gun is about the best weapon available today. Laser sights are pretty super but 80% of police units don’t have the funding for them. There are some really neat new non-lethal weapons out there now but they need work.

A lot of cops are now working out and thus have better than average strength, but the health problems from anabolic steroids will prevent them from being used. Also they are expensive.

so in answer to your OP. There never will be a comic book Super Hero like Iron Man. There are comic book heroes like The Punisher only they are bad guys too and the cops are after them and they are usually crazy rednecks who think being Mexican after sundown is a capitol offence and owning a gun is a liscene to be a judge and jury. There are also legitimate “super cops” out there. Most of them are SWAT cops, also FBI field agents and some treasury agents qualify. Genuine bad-asses but they are hampered by the laws they enforce. The only legal civillian crimefighters are the people with the Neighborhood Watch stickers on the front door or groups like them.

smartt, please ignore Lucretia. Obviously, she is hung up about something that doesn’t show in this thread. I don’t know what other threads you’ve started, but I prefer to judge each one on its own. And I think this one is valid.

I think you’ve definitely hit on the best model for a real superhero when you mention Batman. His abilities are not enhanced beyond human by genetics, drugs, or bionice. He’s just trained to an obsessive degree, a genius in several disciplines, and rich enough to pay for the equipment he invents. All of these are plausible in today’s world (though not likely, of course).

A true superhero in today’s world would be such a gadget-master. He (or she) would dress in the best in body armor and carry the kind of weapons that SWAT teams use. Flashbang grenades, net guns, and climbing-rope crossbows all exist.

Unfortunately, such a superhero would never last long. One aspect of comicbook society that our society doesn’t have, is a tolerance for vigilantes. Soon after the superhero began operating, the police would make it a priority to catch him. And they have all the gadgets to do so.

Well, if you practice your archery skills long anough and hard enough, you could be a real-life Green Arrow/Hawkeye/Speedy (or, if you’re a girl, Arrowette)

How to become a REAL LIFE super hero:

  1. Build and experimental rocketship, especially one with ineffective cosmic ray shielding. Then have your girlfriend taunt your life-long buddy, the WWII pilot, with some off-the-wall remark about being afraid of “The Communies.” After you take off, the cosmic rays will affect your molecular structure and give you fantastic abilities.

  2. Get bitten by a radio-active spider.

  3. Be born to parents who worked on the Manhatten Project and left you an incredible fortune. Then found a school for gifted teen-agers.

  4. Do research in the field of gamma radiation. Get caught in the blast of one of your own experiments.

  5. Be the son of Odin of Aesir and a Frost Giantess. Have Odin become angry with you, wiping away your memory and sending you to earth, in New York City, to live as a lame doctor.

  6. Be given the Super-Soldier Formula.

  7. Be a rich, conceited surgeon. Lose some of the abilities in your hands and go off into the Himilayas searching for enlightenment.

Okay, okay… I’m sorry, I couldn’t help myself.

Name this superhero:

  • Highly intelligent, 90th percentile or higher. Constantly schooled in a variety of disciplines including languages, navigation, computer programming, and spycraft.

  • Physically fine tuned. Marathon runner, benches 500 pounds, can hold breath for minimum two minutes underwater.

  • Cross-trained in any number of weapons specialties and tactics. Armed with the most technologically advanced and reliable gear available.

  • Can stay awake for days at a stretch or go into a form of hibernation through the use of specially developed drugs. Can see clearly at night. Can travel long distances underwater or drop out of the sky virually undetected.

  • Has at command wealth and resources comparable to a large nation.

That Superhero may very well be named Tim. He’s a Navy SEAL. Or, if you want to alter a very few of the above qualifications, he might be a Ranger, or a Delta, or SAS or SBS, etc. These guys are so damned elite they really are superheroes. They make use of many of the same methods and innovations that Batman uses. And there are hundreds of them.

Damn valid point, Sofa King. And hey, even the common fireman is a “super”-hero in my opinion.

But let me narrow the question a bit, and put aside the more comic-bookish aspects of the superhero business (funny costumes, vigilantism, etc).

Let’s say that I want to have “super”-powers, and I’m even eager to sacrifice a limb for that. What’s science has to offer?

hehe I opened up this thread just to see if anyone would mention radioactive spiders :slight_smile:

Anyway, I think that there’s a fantasy that’s accepted in comic books / action movies / martial arts movies that a skillful hero will never get fatally shot. In real life, I believe a batman or ninja or whoever would eventually have bad luck and take a bullet in the wrong place and that would be that.

The truth is, modern firearms are really powerful weapons. I studied martial arts for years, and even learned a few “disarming” moves, but I would take a gun over that any day. I would also say that if you put a very accomplished martial artist up against a street thug with a 9mm pistol, the thug would win a significant percentage of the time. I suppose our “hero” could wear armor, but that wouldndn’t give him 100% protection. Certainly not against a shotgun.

I also agree that in RL there is less tolerance for vigilantes.

Sure, it’s all very well to SAY you’ll sacrifice a limb. C’mon, buddy, pay up first. (Holds the syringe of Super-Soldier Formula behind his back)

I’ll have that right leg, there. Looks like it should fit in the roasting pan.

Think about what you are asking and do a little research on prosthetic limbs. Even if you could have one super strong arm say capable of curling 2000#? What happens to your spine when you lift that much weight? You like the sound bones make when they snap?

Luckily for you there is no artificial limb out there that even closely performs like a natural well trained limb. So we don’t have to worry about you harming yourself that way.

Same thing goes for eyes, ears and everything else. People get atrificail parts because the HAVE to not because it makes them stronger or superhuman. People with artificial hearts have restrictions on lifestyle and habit because even the best artificial heart sucks compared to the real deal.

I’m seriously beginning to doubt your previous assertation about your age and occipation. Either that or Brazillian magazines have really bad screening processes for editorial staff.

You wouldn’t say that if you lived in MegaTokyo, where the constant Boomer crimes overwhelm the ADPolice, who are prevented from actually doing anything about crime by political pressure from GENOM. :slight_smile:

But seriously, we don’t tolerate vigilantes in our society because there’s no need for them. There are no supervillains or armored robots to battle in the real world, so there’s no need for superheroes. Plus, the police actually do catch criminals in the real world. Sure, they’re not perfect, but they’re better than anything else we’ve got. Although, I must admit, I’ve always wanted to be a superhero myself. Back in the days of the Cold War, I wanted to have my superhero team blow up the Berlin Wall and conquer East Berlin in the name of democracy. Today, of course, I’ve matured beyond such childish nonsense. Now I want to conquer North Korea instead. :slight_smile:

Yeah, like I care.

Zen101 wrote:
Think about what you are asking and do a little research on prosthetic limbs. Even if you could have one super strong arm say
capable of curling 2000#? What happens to your spine when you lift that much weight? You like the sound bones make when they
snap?

Luckily for you there is no artificial limb out there that even closely performs like a natural well trained limb. So we don’t have to
worry about you harming yourself that way.

Same thing goes for eyes, ears and everything else. People get atrificail parts because the HAVE to not because it makes them
stronger or superhuman. People with artificial hearts have restrictions on lifestyle and habit because even the best artificial heart
sucks compared to the real deal.


Well, that’s not entirely true. There aren’t artificial limbs or organs that have greater functionality than the real deal, but there are some with different, useful functions. For instance, many people with hearing aids greatly appreciate the ability to turn down the volume at will. There are also special electrode sensor/computer systems that allow paralyzed people to control a cursor or even turn switches on and off just by thinking.

The best examples, however, are the special artificial legs used by runners who have lost a leg. They’re designed more like a kangaroo’s foot than a human leg to give back all of the energy lost at each stride. They allow the runners to beat many fully able-bodied athletes at similar levels of training. Lop off an Olympic level runner’s leg and give him one of these and he will likely beat world records.

Bill

Well, there are some things you can do to make yourself more “heroic”, but as you probably expected, none of them are easy. You could study martial arts, which takes several decades of dedication to master. You could do weight-training, but that gets less and less effective as you get older; you really have to start as a teenager for best results. You can learn a lot of MacGuyver-style tricks in math and science courses, but it takes a lot of learning to be able to get a few tricks to work. But of course, if it were easy to be superhuman, then everyone would be doing it, and it wouldn’t be considered “super” anymore.