How can I get the truth on a fake veteran?

I’m not trying to be snarky here but how does one fuck up writing their name in their undies?

The OP should challenge the liar to a war, to expose him as a fraud! :smiley:

You would be surprised.

In the Navy, they told us where every mark had to be. If it wasn’t in the right place, it had to be crossed out and remarked just so.

Then it had to be folded so that the marks were prominent, and stacked just so in your “locker”. Said locker only had a small drawer that actually locked - the rest was open shelving.

All of this was inspectable not only by your company commander but by trainers who wanted to ding your company for points - and every company was stacked against each other in a competition that didn’t matter except to ramp up the stress level and make sailors out of civilians. Every mark, every fold, every bit of dust counted. We had a row of irons for our uniforms - the dials for them all had to point the same way when stored. The toilet paper had to be folded to a point and lay at the top of the roll.

That’s just barracks management - competition extended also to physical training, classroom test scores, and even attendence at chapel.

So if someone fucks up their uniform, they have to be set right. That kind of attention to detail is needed not only to get through the rest of boot camp, but get through the Navy as well, where a sailor may be on watch with hundreds of guages to track. If one of them goes out of spec, he ought to notice it and say “What the fuck?”

Same goes for the military in general.

Oh man, it’s so much easier than you’d think. (though I didn’t have problems with the underwear; after three weeks of training, I managed to forget what my laundry mark was while marking my service coat.

And to add on to what Mr. Moto said, in Air Force BMT, not only is the nature and location of the mark made pretty damn clear in writing, there are also pictures in the Basic Military Training Guide (not to be confused with the Basic Military Training Study Guide, an entirely different and far more useful book, the both combined having maybe half of what you’re expected to know while in Basic) to make it “Army Proof”.

That said, some of the pictures, such as the one showing the proper way to roll a t-shirt, were comically wrong (the t-shirt shown in the BMTG was so wrinkly it would have caused my MTI to go into conniptions, or perhaps even to do that one thing that MTIs never EVER do… use vulgar language! :smiley: )

Oh yeah, and adding onto Mr. Moto’s comment about the competitions between training units, at BMT, the flights compete for the coveted honor of Honor Flight… an honor which conveys onto the airmen who graduate from that flight… well… nothing really. They get to put “Honor Flight” on their t-shirt, and get a ribbon on their guideon for graduation, which they’ll never see again.

Mostly it’s just bragging points for the MTIs, and the MTIs in various flights will go through various lengths to try and ensure that they win, ranging from motivational PT (“Smoking”, “Pushing Texas”, or “Making the Day Room Sweat”) when they lose points on inspections to outright helping their trainees cheat on inspections (ie: When the personal areas are expected to be looked at, anything not up to spec gets tossed into the utility closet. When that is going to be inspected, it goes into the laundry bags, etc.) My favorite is when a trainee who has problems with marching suddenly comes down with a bad cold the day his flight is doing their Honor Flight drill.

That reminds me of something tangential, but in a way related. I’m sure a lot of people have heard about Van Halen (back in their heyday) putting a demand in their concert rider for M&M’s with the brown ones removed. People thought “geez, what a bunch of primadonnas”. But David Lee Roth later explained that they did that to make sure that the people handling the concert in were actually paying attention to detail. If the brown M&Ms were picked out, they could feel more assured that the more important technical details of setting up ther show were likely to be handled correctly.

Might be B.S., but there you go.

You know, I recall hearing that from the horse’s mouth in an interview. I don’t have a cite but for some reason I want to say it was Roth on The Bob And Tom Show. It’s clever, if it’s true.

Is that you Pvt. Pyle? I thought you wre dead.
To answer the OP: Does it really matter whether this guy is a fake or not?
After all the only one he’s fooling is himself, the sad bastard

According to this your task will soon be simple:

“Fraud busters, many of them infuriated veterans, could get a boost in their efforts under a bill introduced Wednesday in Congress that would create a publicly searchable database of the nation’s top medals, making it easier for police, reporters and officials to verify claims.”