But, Israel already did that. In 1967.
OK, so guess I was too lax typing this. I was just trying to get things out of my head. If you have a problem with that you can go kiss yourself.
I thank the Mod team for not removing this post for being too dumb/merely a troll post because it actually isn’t.
I’ll try to rephrase it so we can all explore it a bit deeper.
Saying Israel should go to pre-1967 borders are a laughable request, and it is driving me mad because how stupid of a request it is.
Arabs, as evidenced by all history books, historians, Wikipedia, etc. have caused many wars between them and The State of Israel. The 1967, which was “initiated” by Israel’s pre-emptive air attack was actually triggered by a war act committed by Egypt: closing of the Straits of Tiran.
After the Arabs lost the 1967 war (and later they would even attack Israel in Yom Kippur, indicating they show no respect whatsoever for other people’s values.), they still claim to this day that Israel needs to go pre-1967 borders because the was caused by Israel and that the situation of the borders are unfair.
Then again, in my opinion going to 1967 lines would still be one of the better chances Arabs states have as they got defeated in 1973 again, after they started yet another (third) war against Israel. And what Israel did was (it had the capability of managing West Bank, Gaza, Sinai Peninsula, Golan Heights), give back the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt and give back the West Bank to PLO (originally Jordan though) in exchange for peace treaties. This is an example of a country seeing land as less valuable then peace, which is basically an essential touchstone for our civilisation. The Muslim Arabs in the Middle East on contrary, seek for more land to conquer, more people to rule, and more souls to crash by implementing the harsh Sharia code on them. The main factor in this result is of course not the Arab public itself per se, but more greatly the rules of these Middle East kingdoms who are radical and arrogant; even Turkey now has been becoming more and more autocratic every year since 2002 (when the AKP government got elected).
Then I continue by making a point clear: The international community loves discriminatorily condemning Israel in any way possible for even the faintest of the harmful actions they take. The number of resolutions condemning Sudan for her biggest human right abuses until now stands at 0 while Israel gets harsh condemnation from multiple resolutions monthly if not weekly. Adding to that, I feel and more important than me the Israeli people think “no matter what Israel does, it will always be isolated and condemned”, yes a majority of the public actually think this but if this is true, there is no real barricade in front of Israel stopping them from conquering the whole Palestine as it would only add to the never-ending international criticism it receives due to the far-right ultra-orthodox Netanyahu government, whom I do not support the policies of.
Moreover, UN is actually “stupid” (sounds childish, I know) but what I mean by that is, its member states are contradictory with its mission and its bodies are dysfunctional. We have countries with indefinite human right abuse records joining Human Right Councils, Despotic regimes getting selected in the UNSC (UN Security Council) and we have lots of undemocratic, crushing, run-by-tyrants states lobbying against democratic regimes in the UNGA (UN General Assembly) which are actually opposing the regime the UN is endorsing and blatantly refusing to accept the ideology of UN (and still people think US should withdraw from UN due to the funds being wasted there, I find these opinions correct as well).
As for the last part, what I meant was, solving the Jerusalem issue would solve the whole thing (most likely except the right of return part). Giving Israelis the whole of Jerusalem as a capital would satisfy their historic values while PA can still have Ramallah. This would also lead to security agreements being more stable leading to mass education in Palestine, better living conditions and would most likely be enough to life the blockade mostly if not wholly. Of course, all this happens after Hamas is eradicated and the moderate Fatah party starts governing the PA (Gaza and West Bank) as a whole.
Hope this made by point more clear.
For 30 minutes?
Ma, they’re fighting over That Damn Sweater Again…
“Give it back, its Mine!”
“You weren’t wearing it!”
“You’ll stretch it out, you Great Fat Cow!”
“You’re just Jealous…!”
“Ma…!”
“Ma…!”
You hafta eat the worm.
Never trust anyone with children over 30.
It certainly are.
Look, the problem is not so much the location of Israel’s borders as the status of people within them. The WB Palestinians are subject to a government in which they have no votes or voice. If that is a problem – and it is – then the only conceivable solutions are 1) a two-state solution, 2) a one-state solution, and 3) ethnic cleansing (doesn’t matter who gets cleansed, it’s a solution either way).
What about a no-state solution? Just disband both countries and make them go back where they came from.
Oh, wait…
That’s true, if self-evident. The problem is that 3 is abhorrent, 2 will likely lead to 3 and nobody has any idea how to implement 1. It’s bit of a pickle.
I think he’s proud to know his neighbor and all-around good guy Led Gable.
I think he was trying to say “Knowledge Garbled”
I think the mods should thank you for posting this in the pit, where no post is too dumb or trollish, thus saving them the effort.
Yes, but they are also the borders of a state that never existed.
:rolleyes: Oh, come on! You and every Israeli should know that’s not true! If South African whites survived the end of Apartheid, Israeli Jews will survive a one-state solution! You’d still be the majority, after all – that might change, but not for decades.
Or possibly over the Led Zep MP3s.
Alright, you can “D’Yer Maker” and “The Crunge,” but…
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NOOO PLS KASHMIR IS MINE.
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How can people write English and WRITING they are so English?
Stop feigning shock, BG. I know it’s your shtick, but it ill becomes you.
Doesn’t matter, you know I’m right.
Yeah, because every change of government in the Middle East has been pretty much like the one in South Africa, where tolerance reigned, and people learned how to get on together.
You are either hopelessly naive, are an absolute idiot. Or both.