How can people live like this!?

According to the OP, the dogs were on (short) chains, so, no, as far as the dogs. As for the cats, I’d assume that any cat left outside could at least catch a mouse or sparrow or lizard here and there, so since they were described as walking skeletons, in the sentence just after a description of the interior of the dwelling, I assumed they were indoors.

Trapped. :frowning:

I’m also hoping “left to die” is a euphemism for “euthanised.”

Has anyone mentioned that they hope the cats were euthanized instead of left to starve to death? I haven’t seen it posted yet.

Myself and yourself both!

This is completely irrelevant. Just because “Myself went to the store” is ungrammatical does not necessarily imply that “Myself and Jim went to the store” is ungrammatical. In fact, in dialects where the second usage is allowed, the first is still prohibited. And just because you are not familiar with the usage does not make it universally ungrammatical. And even if it were, your nitpicking is a hijack here.

Um, hello?

Hellooooooooo

Who writes an OP like that and then disappears?

“Left to die” ??? WTF? If a “rescue” did that around here, there would be criminal charges against them as well as the supposed owner if they knowingly left trapped animals to starve. That’s what county and state authorities are for, and why they need to be called, so actual rescues with a tiny bit more resources can at least put down the animals that need it.

I agree that the hijack about grammer is kinda lame. A very good online friend is Polish and one of the smartest people I’ve ever met. The only time I ever correct him about his typing is when he asks me to, or if what he has typed was so hard to understand that I had to ask him to explain.

To the OP…where are you generally? If you are in the US, I might be able to find other rescue groups to help with the starving animals. There are non-US rescue people here as well. (waves at Kinki and hopes the efforts are still going as well as they could.)

Collectors (which is what we call them here) are usually suffering from a mental disease, much like HoardersI. Collectors keep animals, Hoarders keep stuff. In my experience, and sadly I know way too much about this, Collectors do not move off and leave their animals behind. I doubt that Hoarders nove away from their stuff either.

It takes a special kind of asshole to just move away and leave dogs tied to trees, horses in pens and cats locked up anywhere.

If anyone wants to hear some of the heart breaking stories I have of collectors and animals, I will share if asked. Every time our rescue group has gone in to take/euth animals, law enforcement has been involved because the collector just cannot see how much the animals are suffering.

Carefully doesn’t say the T word. Its possible that the OP is in a different country.

I was proud of my response, btw. Because I just cannot fathom any rescue group who would just leave animals to die. We do this because we love them all. We (rescue groups) don’t just walk away from a situation like this. We make phone calls, we get out our traps, we bribe the vet to come to the site and euth them as we bring them out. We don’t leave animals to suffer and die.

But this is how we do it here. Things are different in other places.

Except that it is.

Mine do.

sighs about the grammer people.

Yes, it is wrong. I tend to just deal with it.

My Polish friend will type “I’ll talk to you in a morning” when he means “in the morning”

He will type “does your cats remember you if you came home” which means “did your cats remember you when you got home”

If I only chatted to people who knew proper spelling, grammar and sentence structure, my online world would be badly limited.

Of course, your online experience is different than mine, and what you want is different than what I want. For me, the content is much more important than the mistakes.

flatlined, I’m sorry, but that’s just not the same thing at all. Your Polish-speaking friend is simply having a little trouble with syntax.

Anyone who says "Myself and <other person[s]> [performed action X] " is patently just trying to demonstrate that they’re too educated to say “Me and <other person[s]> [performed action X]…”

It’s the pedantry overlaid with the error that’s so distracting, to me, at least.

I’d love to be familiarized with a dialect where it’s not incorrect, Jamaika a jamaikaiaké.

Obviously one of the dogs that was left to die.

But it would have been much more interesting if she had said, “I and I.”

“English” is a proper noun.

Who writes an OP like that and then disappears?

My apologies-- it’s been a crazy couple of days. Here’s an attempt at a logical response, while the coffee’s brewing.
I assume you mean euthanized?

No, not euthanized. The couple currently taking care of/cleaning up the place is saying they’ll feed them-- even so, with all the health problems, it’s not likely that any individual animal in that batch would last more than a couple of years, if that. (For what it’s worth, one of the fellow rescue people is going back there tonight to drop off some flea topical and take another look at the remaining dogs.)

Let me outline the scene here.

We are in the middle of nowhere, Appalachia. The area is poor, with low population of people and a very high population of stray/abandoned animals.
There are two rescues in the area, both tiny, and run by retirees. One does catch-spay/neuter-release, and is doing a good job of keeping the stray cats fixed around town. That still leaves the immense, mountainous countryside, and the person doing #1’s trapping only goes out there if she gets contacted by someone who is feeding a stray cat regularly. (Guarantees capture, I guess?)
The second one is an actual pull-from-the-pound rescue, one that deals with abandoned animals, animals that are about to be put down, etc. They are in touch with rescues in more populated areas an hour or more away, and bus some animals out to the latter every week. The ones that can’t be found a better-suited rescue (the vast majority, from non-descript cats that are a dime a dozen around here, to pitbull and hound mixes), end up staying with members locally. This means that everyone in the group who –could- take an animal in had already done so, and some had taken on more than they probably should have. At this point, the group is forced to discriminate as to what animals they take in. As mentioned before, it’s a low-population area with limited possibility for adopting critters out.

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Trapped. **
To clarify—the cats are outdoor-cats, though they do have access to the house. The feces thing was primarily from a small dog that was kept as indoor-only. With that sort of concentration of cats, I would think that wildlife around there’s pretty wary…

** Same thing with the trailer owner. He or she may have started leaving food out for a couple of local strays and never planned on assuming overall responsibility for a pack of animals. Is he really a worse person than the guy in the trailer next door who throws rocks at any stray animal he sees and chases them off his property?**
From what I understand, the original owner was taking on kittens/local abandoned animals, but not making much of an effort to take care of them in any way. Or to fix them. Which is something they could’ve done, since most of those cats were tame.
sighs about the grammer people.

There’s better things to get RO’d about than grammer. :wink: For what it’s worth, English is my second language, and 've never gotten some gramm-er-tical things down.

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I was proud of my response, btw. Because I just cannot fathom any rescue group who would just leave animals to die. We do this because we love them all. We (rescue groups) don’t just walk away from a situation like this. We make phone calls, we get out our traps, we bribe the vet to come to the site and euth them as we bring them out. We don’t leave animals to suffer and die.**

I know it sounds awful to leave the animals in that parasite-infested place, but at least the present caretakers are promising to feed them. That’s a lot more than most cats in the area could brag about.
Flatlined

Please do share your stories. I don’t think most people realize how common these situations are.
Moral of the story: Animal hoarders suck. Adopt an adult nondescript tabby kitty today!

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I don’t think I can properly explain the severity of the problem to someone living in a city. Heck, back when I lived in a 70k-sized-place, there was a number of strays-- but they’d get picked up by animal control, or taken in by someone in need of a pet, or killed by a car within a few days. Out here, there’s a lot of wilderness. So cats stick around, multiply, kittens go feral. Heck, we live 5 minutes from the center of town, and see about 6 different cats on a regular basis. None have collars (Collar!? On a cat? Around here? Not bloody likely!), all but one (who realized he could mooch off of us, and is in the process of being converted to a lap-cat) are feral. There’s an actual feral cat -colony- at the nearby grocery store, with about 8 adult cats that are fixed, and a handful of kittens that Org #1’s in the process of trapping. Did I mention that this store is within walking distance, and none of those 8 are the 6 we see regularly?

"No, not euthanized. The couple currently taking care of/cleaning up the place is saying they’ll feed them-- even so, with all the health problems, it’s not likely that any individual animal in that batch would last more than a couple of years, if that. "

That’s what we were looking for, Waxwinged, some indication the ones worst off weren’t simply being left to die on their own through starvation or whatever. Thanks for making the resolution clear and, of course, most of all for what you and your friends have done. Yours is indeed an admirable effort.

Upon further consideration, I retract my claim that it is grammatical. I agree that it stems from a hypercorrection, and even though I don’t have a problem with it, I’m not willing to defend such a claim.

However:

This makes no sense as a response to the sentence you quoted. Also, I still stand by that sentence. The ungrammaticality of the one phrase doesn’t directly imply the ungrammaticality of the other.

Myself can beat up yourself.