How can we better prevent school shootings?

Didn’t I just ask you why you spend your time arguing about drunk driving if you favor reasonable efforts to curb gun violence?

Are you under the impression that I oppose regulations and restrictions that will reduce drunk driving? How the fuck is this relevant, except to troll the discussion regarding guns?

You brought it up…I was merely responding. If anyone was trolling (and I’m not accusing you of it), I’d say it’s YOU with your idiotic jab at swimming pools, knives and alcohol.

Still with the alcohol canard?

And someone should point out to Mr. LaPierre that there was an armed sheriff & uniformed guard at Columbine.

I love they will blame anyone and anything OTHER than guns. Movies, music videos, video games, tollhouse cookies, ANYTHING other than the actual tool used to murder people.

It was an obvious joke about how stupid it would be to blame something else for this incident. Then you provided a cite…

Sort of like your stupid attempt to blame the gun, right? :stuck_out_tongue: Good grief, Hentor…you really don’t see how ridiculously transparent your arguments are?

And the police fucked up royally that day.
CNN

Police response changed due to Columbine.

Well, thank god this was the last mentally ill guy with a history of video game playing in the United States. We can all rest easily now.

Fuck sakes, for the billionth time, car accidents are accidents - even when it’s a drunk driving - and we do everything we possibly can to try to make sure they don’t happen.

Some asshole shooting people with his big shiny gun is doing it on purpose and we don’t do shit to try to make sure it doesn’t happen except to complain about how violent fucking video games are.

Edit: All redundant, I know (but I didn’t see page 11 - shoot me)

I know! It’s almost like having armed guards in the school isn’t a panacea for gun violence. But don’t worry, I’m sure the new policies are foolproof.

That sounds very hard. High schools with more than 1,000 students are not uncommon. And I don’t see how reducing the number of entrances is a good idea: it inconveniences everyone and creates fire hazards (and fires are much more likely than school shootings). Not only that, but reducing the number of entrances and exits would probably make it harder to run away from a shooter in the very unlikely event that happens. It’s not practical.

Really, the security guard idea is the most impractical and least sensible of the options that have been thrown out there. And of course the NRA went with that one. I don’t know if they want cops to be taken off patrols or what, but it really doesn’t make any sense.

For fucks sake, would you please try and understand that while this distinction means something to you and the rest of the echo chamber, not everyone feels this way? I know, you are used to being able to simply shut down discussion by repeating this tripe, but it’s not working this time. So, instead of saying ‘for fucks sake’ and handwaving things away, just address the point or ignore it but for the sake of the gods stop whining about it. Please? Pretty please? With a shinny bullet on top?

Naw, it was the guns fault, clearly. If not for the gun, this guy probably wouldn’t have even been a crazy psycho. Well, that and those damned violent video games. But they probably had guns in them, so no doubt that was where the fault is.

So, all we have to do to prevent school shootings in the future is clearly get rid of all of the guns, get rid of all the video games…and then after some asterisks concerning the details of how that happens…PROFIT! Plus, a pony in every pot no doubt!

Sweet. Glad we cleared that up. We should ask you more often to fix complex problems, Hentor…you are a real wiz at this stuff!

Would you please quit saying this.

Handwaving? I’m handwaving? I’m the one who wants some action on guns taken. I’m not the one saying, “well it won’t work so why bother?”

And golly, not everyone feels that deaths via accident are different than deaths via murder? What a fun club that must be. Of course there’s a difference. No one stands up for less restrictions on drinking and driving so that we can all bathe in the sweet, sweet liberty of it all.

I’m not the one trying to shut down discussion of this point by histrionic ‘for fuck sake’ appeals. Perhaps you aren’t handwaving, simply raising your hands imploringly into the skies while shedding crocodile tears of regret and pain.

Well, and building strawmen or being willfully ignorant of the point I have been making on this. I mean, granted, I’m no font of clarity, but I HAVE gone to the trouble, repeatedly, of explaining my exact point on this, yet you still mischaracterize it.

Since you said please and all, I’ll see what I can do. I’m sure there are other ways to mock this ridiculous viewpoint without bringing up the obvious corollary to Hentor’s drive by snark.

Has anyone got a word to say in defence of the NRA’s proposal of an armed guard in every school? The obvious counterexample is Fort Hood, full of good guys with guns, still the site of 13 murders.

Create an irregular militia unit akin to the French Foreign Legion (but less structured), so psychos can take out their aggression in some far off place against targets who actually deserve it.

I’m sure their mothers love them…?

Sounds like an unfeasible plan to me. I can’t imagine what the costs would be to station trained and armed guards at every school in the country. It would be staggering. I’m also not keen on the idea of arming teachers, though I see where they are coming from on this. Personally, I’d say it would be a mistake, as half trained, and in a lot of cases reluctant teachers wouldn’t make the best armed protectors. This isn’t to detract from teachers, or their fierce desire to protect their students, I just think it would do more harm than good.