How come Christians eat pork ?

[Deeg]

@Beware_of_Doug

David Feldman, in Imponderables, claims that:
Anything to this?

I’ve always wondered how ham became the traditional Easter meal but that sounds like bullshit to me.

[Vox_Imperatoris]

@Deeg

I’ve always wondered how ham became the traditional Easter meal but that sounds like bullshit to me.

Obviously. Who doesn’t like bacon? :dubious:

Valete,
Vox Imperatoris

[DanBlather]

@DrDeth

If you want the* religous *answer, it’s because Jesus Christ became the New Covenant when He died for our sins.

Which explains why conservative Christians want the now no longer binding ten commandments posted in every classroom, courtroom, and outhouse.

[Beware_of_Doug]

@Deeg

I’ve always wondered how ham became the traditional Easter meal but that sounds like bullshit to me.

What are you implying? That a people who have been the target of millennia of undeserved persecution might fall victim to a persecution complex? Perish the thought…

[Vox_Imperatoris]

@DanBlather

Which explains why conservative Christians want the now no longer binding ten commandments posted in every classroom, courtroom, and outhouse.

Sigh You don’t have to mischaracterize things to argue your point. The Ten Commandments are not included in the laws revoked in the New Testament because they apply to all people, not just Jews (which, as has been pointed out, you don’t have to be to be a Christian). They are still considered the basic commandments about morality to follow.

Valete,
Vox Imperatoris

[scm1001]

@Vox_Imperatoris

Sigh You don’t have to mischaracterize things to argue your point. The Ten Commandments are not included in the laws revoked in the New Testament because they apply to all people, not just Jews (which, as has been pointed out, you don’t have to be to be a Christian). They are still considered the basic commandments about morality to follow.

Valete,
Vox Imperatoris

Buddhists, Moslems, Hindus…??? wtf
Even if you just mean christians I am not sure why some OT is fine and others not

whoops back to GQ

[Derleth]

@scm1001

Buddhists, Moslems, Hindus…??? wtf

Yes, they are intended to apply to everyone by both Christians and Jews.

[D18]

@mamboman

Given that, do you think Jesus would have eaten pork himself?

Good question.

WAG: Who knows, but presumably in Israel at that time there wouldn’t be a lot of pigs running around to eat in the first place.

[DanBlather]

@Vox_Imperatoris

Sigh You don’t have to mischaracterize things to argue your point. The Ten Commandments are not included in the laws revoked in the New Testament because they apply to all people, not just Jews (which, as has been pointed out, you don’t have to be to be a Christian). They are still considered the basic commandments about morality to follow.

Valete,
Vox Imperatoris

Can you point me to the Bible verses that point this out?

[DanBlather]

@Vox_Imperatoris

Sigh You don’t have to mischaracterize things to argue your point. The Ten Commandments are not included in the laws revoked in the New Testament because they apply to all people, not just Jews (which, as has been pointed out, you don’t have to be to be a Christian). They are still considered the basic commandments about morality to follow.

Valete,
Vox Imperatoris

Oh, and did you learn in church on SUNDAY that the 3rd (or 4th depending) commandment still applies to Christians?

[Gorsnak]

I would think that historically speaking christians eat pork because with very few exceptions the early church was a gentile movement rather than a jewish one.

[Huerta88]

@mamboman

Given that, do you think Jesus would have eaten pork himself?

Since the New Covenant was not consummated until the Resurrection, I would speculate (WAG): Maybe, but not till after the Resurrection changed the rules.

[Huerta88]

@FriarTed

Blood and meat from strangled animals.
. . .
and against eating the living flesh of an animal (by extension, against eating blood and cruel prolonged methods of getting meat, rather than a quick clean kill.)

Yikes. So – is a Christian okay if he:

(1) eats black pudding or other delicious blood-based sausages?
(2) eats a freshly-boiled lobster?
(3) goes to Japan and eats one of those grilled-alive scallops or crabs?

[DrDeth]

@Huerta88

Yikes. So – is a Christian okay if he:

(1) eats black pudding or other delicious blood-based sausages?
(2) eats a freshly-boiled lobster?
(3) goes to Japan and eats one of those grilled-alive scallops or crabs?

More or less those prohibitions are ignored, since they occur so rarely.

[Chronos]

Sigh You don’t have to mischaracterize things to argue your point. The Ten Commandments are not included in the laws revoked in the New Testament because they apply to all people, not just Jews (which, as has been pointed out, you don’t have to be to be a Christian). They are still considered the basic commandments about morality to follow.

The laws given to Moses apply to the descendants of Moses. It’s the laws given to Noah which apply to all of humanity (i.e., the descendents of Noah). There’s only seven of those, and they overlap partially but not completely with the more familiar Ten Commandments.

[scm1001]

@Vox_Imperatoris

Sigh You don’t have to mischaracterize things to argue your point. The Ten Commandments are not included in the laws revoked in the New Testament because they apply to all people, not just Jews (which, as has been pointed out, you don’t have to be to be a Christian). They are still considered the basic commandments about morality to follow.

Valete,
Vox Imperatoris

OK I see where you are coming from now. Slighty ambiguous but I sense you are saying “The Ten Commandments are not included in the laws revoked in the New Testament because some christians and Jews believe they apply to all people”,

[Deeg]

@Beware_of_Doug

What are you implying? That a people who have been the target of millennia of undeserved persecution might fall victim to a persecution complex? Perish the thought…

It has the feeling of an urban legend to me. It’s too cute and if William really wanted to persecute the Jews I doubt he do it with his menu. Why would the Jews care what the Gentiles eat? I don’t doubt that ham is the traditional choice because it’s not kosher but my guess is that it happened by happenstance.

[Huerta88]

@Deeg

It has the feeling of an urban legend to me. It’s too cute and if William really wanted to persecute the Jews I doubt he do it with his menu. Why would the Jews care what the Gentiles eat? I don’t doubt that ham is the traditional choice because it’s not kosher but my guess is that it happened by happenstance.

It’s rare that we know details with certainty about such minutiae a thousand years after the fact, and my limited Googling tracked down nothing resembling a cite.

Switching from bacon to ham to spite the Jews makes little sense, obviously, and I don’t know how many Jews there would have been around to hassle.

Easter comes at the end of Winter. I’d imagine any preserved meat would do for a celebration.

[Derleth]

Another interesting question is why Christians have Christmas trees:

Jeremiah 10
1Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

Yes, that is Old Testament and, presumably, Jews are still forbidden from having Christmas trees. More seriously, it’s an example of how the Bible is big enough and diverse enough a clever person can use it to justify just about anything. If the snake-handling Pentecostals and the sedevacantist Catholics and the Unitarian-Universalists and the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) can all derive their beliefs from (essentially) the same book, it isn’t the book talking.

[Henrichek]

Mmm… pork… sacrilicious.