How did faith healers in ancient days do what they do

Cite, please, for any actual proof of the existence of either. (Hint: The Kirlian aura is not a “Human Energy Field,” not being a thing found only around human bodies.)

James Randi has done a lot of observing it. Guess what?

Point to just one specific current case, and I will take an honest look at it.

I see what you did there.

I can’t prove anything to James Randi skeptics, it just isn’t possible.

So you guys win, Randi rules.

I am tired of explaining the “how” when no one is listening.

You can’t prove jack if you ain’t got jack. Wherever did you get the idea that piling anonymous stories upon unsubstantiated claims would work on a site dedicated to fighting ignorance?

You don’t need to explain the how, you need to show proof of works. If someone claims their car can do 200mph, you don’t need to know how the engine works to see proof of the speed.

When come back bring reality.

You are always making claims that you can’t substantiate. This might be expected from those on SD that have been here a year or less. You, OTOH, have no excuse. You, by far, write more checks that your ass can’t cash than any other poster on SD I’ve known. Then we continually have to ask you to substantiate it, and you continually crawfishing out of it without ever claiming you’re wrong, but just making up more unsubstantiated bullshit to follow which repeats the cycle. When pressed, you’ll eventually cave in with cites of pseudo-scientists or use more anecdotes which you think still qualifies for good evidence.

Not sure if it has ever been suggested or not, but seems like there should be a limit of how many times a poster can make a claim without ever having to substantiate it. We can cut some slack to newbies. You would think lekatt’s pony would have learned a few more tricks by now. Seems like he exceeds his quota of what should be allowed.

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How did faith healers in ancient days do what they do

Now where in hell does it say anything about proof of their accuracy, If
anyone is off topic or out of line it is you and the rest of your skeptic friends.

But I will bet you will ask for proof of this.

Your posts #16 and #21 are the cause of any supposed hijacking. You don’t get to make unsubstantiated claims then say that questioning them are off-topic.

Obviously, there will be little/no objective evidence for the ‘ancient faith healings’, we can surmise that currently active practicioners of said ‘faith healing’ would have the same tools a thier disposal - which is what you did when you posted this and brought the ‘debate’ to the current times -

<bolding mine> Now, back up your claims with actual objective evidence or admit that you cannot.

Who can ‘currently get the job done’ ?

This is not telling how it’s done but rather that it is being done.
Prove it.

To me, the interesting question is about what time in history was your outcome actually better if you went to a regular physician as opposed to a faith-healing fraud when you were really sick?

Reading about some of the medical practices of the past, seems that avoiding the doctors was actively good for your health until reasonably recently … :smiley:

Snipped by me -

Also - if you are reffering to Mark 5:21-42 - where does Jesus say “the vitality left me” ??

  • secondly, at the end of the passage, he gave strict orders not to tell anyone - nice that people disregarded that too…

While science based medical care has steadily improved over the centuries, there has been no improvement at all when it comes to faith healing-it’s stuck on the bottom rung, mired in superstition, flim-flam and tradition.

Is he actually making up Bible verses now?

Not quite. I looked at several versions and most are a variation of “He felt the (healing) power go forth from him.”

So lekatt is making up a translation that suits him.

Of course, that’s just one translation. I suppose it might also be rendered as “vitality,” unless Greek has a completely different word for that. Anybody know?

I also wonder whether “bleeding” here means hemophilia, or really bad menstrual cycles, or something else.