I’ve played those machines before. They’re fun, and much less expensive than a regular crap table–typically, the minimum is $5 as opposed to $15 at a staffed crap table. The crowd is just as enthusiastic and supportive as at a regular table, so I will play them again, but it’s just not the same as when the stickman pushes five dice towards you and says, “Select two, sir. It’s your roll.”
A few corrections as regards terminology:
– On the come-out roll, a roll of 2, 3, or 12 (technically, “craps”) means that the shooter has “crapped out.” The shooter can continue to roll.
– On a point roll, after a point has been established, rolling a 7 before the point means that the shooter has “sevened-out,” and must pass the dice to the next shooter.
There’s a difference between “crapping out” and “sevening-out.”
‘Missing the point’ is also called ‘Rolling a seven.’
Just for fun, I plan to fly down to Monte Carlo tonight and play several hundred thousand rounds of craps. Perhaps it will help settle this dispute.
I’m bringing eight players along: four take 2X Odds; the others never take Odds. Four are “right” bettors; the other four bet “wrong” (on Do_Not). Four bet every Come (Don’t_Come) opportunity; the other four only bet on Come-out rolls. I’ve got room for more players; submit your betting policy and I’ll play on your behalf.
I want to double-check one rule. Suppose the point is Four in a casino which offers 2X odds. You can place an additional $20 after a $10 come bet, or up to $40 after a $10 Don’t_Come bet. Correct?
Penn & Teller used to do a bit that went like this: “Everyone who comes to Las Vegas has the same problem: you all suffer from bad math. That’s right. You see a sign that says 99% return on slots and you think you’re winning. That’s bad math.”
Like I tell people: we don’t build these places because people win.
Who says a lot of those people aren’t problem gamblers?
Casino operations absolutely do make a lot of money from gambling addicts; estimates range depending on the study but a shocking number estimate the figure to be 25 percent or higher, with some gusting as high as half.
That reminds me up until the early 00s you could still get rooms at like Circus Circus for about $10 a night. The last time I checked a few months ago cheapest place was $70 way off the strip (YMMV though, I was going off Priceline)