How do I find businesses that would let me put my arcade games on location?

I’m an arcade hobbyist, and I realize that I would like to get some of my machines onto a business location so they could make some money. I have no idea about how to find a business that would let me do this, other than going door-to-door at dozens of places.

Would I need a business liscense to do this? I was thinking that, the business would get the machines at no cost to them, and we would split the take 50/50.

I think my question is rather factual, but if it doesn’t belong in General Questions, please feel free to move it! :slight_smile:

Simple answer ito your subject question s that you would ask the owner of a place. Mom-and-pop places, rather than chains. I placed a few of mine ages ago; one at a local indie record store, one at a storefront maintained by a group of role-playing gamers. I didn’t make much, maybe $10 a month from each machine after splitting costs.

Complex answers for everything else, and would probably enter the realm of asking for legal advice. Most places will want you to be licensed, bonded, and insured (who’s responsible if the 20 to 30 year old dust-covered wiring to the ancient CRT in your machine catches fire?). Games used commercially may need to have annual licensing and registration with state, county, and/or city authorities (Google “amusement device license” for a start), or the site itself may need to be licensed for such. You’d need to draw up legal documents to cover revenue sharing, potential liability for damage caused by your game, potential liability for damage caused to your game, etc.

Well, not exactly “no cost”, unless you have arcade machines that don’t require electrical power.

This is the power supply that I am using in my cabinets:

If I do my math right, with 15 amps on the 5 volt rail, 4amps on the 12 volt rail, and my games do not require the -5volt rail, this power supply draws watts? This is less than a typical desktop PC power supply. :dubious:

I think you’re being a bit pedantic.

Here is an arcade hobby site discussing the power useage of arcade games:

"Even though the cabinets say 5amp and such, on average they draw 1.5-3 AMPS…very little amperage. When they first kick on, the might spike to 5amps. We had to do the analyses for the museum. Our 220 games will take possibly 350 amps, though we’re still going to use two 400amp sub-panels. If they REALLY want to know, below is the average monthly cost per appliance…I’ve got a much more detailed chart if they want to question it. It’s based on average hourly usage and .06 per KWh…you might be as high as .10-$.12 KWh. If that’s the case, double each monthly number.

But accordingly, you’re video games are costing $1.64-$3.00 per month each in electricity. So if you cough that up, they can’t complain."

If you want to find a business that will accept arcades you’re going to have to look through the 1980s. :smiley:

Seriously, what Student Driver said. Back in the day the store would pay for the arcades and the arcade machine owner would take most of the profits. Now you would have a hard time giving them away for free plus 50% of the profits. They take up valuable store space.

If you still want to do it, here are some tips (and at this point, the thread might need to go to IMHO):

If you have true classics-- the well-known titles like Asteroids, Ms. Pac-Man, Space Invaders, Donkey Kong, etc.-- you will have an easier time in placing your machine than if it’s Championship Baseball or Black Tiger. A PlayChoice cabinet loaded with classic titles would also probably do okay. In fact, if you have a Galaga or Ms. Pac-Man, you can still pull a small profit.

Retro and hipster themed places-- think dive bars that serve PBR, or local record shops, or funky consignment shops-- are more likely to be interested in hosting a game, because an old classic could provide ambiance. In fact, you could probably even site old black and white machines that no one in their right mind would take-- those crummy Pong knockoffs or Space Invaders bootlegs-- in retro places. I know one local guy who has a Defender, Rally-X, and Jr. Pac-Man at a record store a block away from my place, the kind of record store that reeks of incense and has posters of Jim Morrison staring at you.

Businesses which are primarily coin operated, like laundromats or vending machine rooms, are still good spots to siphon off the occasional spare quarter. Most sites will have a machine or two already, but it doesn’t hurt to ask, especially if you have a cabaret cabinet which can get jammed into a spot that isn’t being used, or if you have a cocktail cabinet that patrons could use as a table. Apartment laundry rooms are IMO an untapped potential; I jokingly suggested sticking my Satan’s Hollow upright in at my apartment’s laundry room and site management actually thought it was a great idea… I didn’t do it because I don’t my machine to be damaged.

Internet cafes and game rooms can also show some interest; I’ve been approached by friends who have opened gaming cafes to see if they could have my machines on location. They provide ambiance, the gamers are more likely to show respect to your machines, and they can be more accepting of the B-level games… they don’t necessarily need Ms. Pac-Man and Galaga.

Accept this fact: your machines will be abused and damaged in a street location. Water damage and scratches from carts on the cabinet at laundries, spilled drinks in the controls at bars (and cigarette burns everywhere on the controls and bezel if your locale allows smoking), spilled soda at internet/gaming cafes. The bottom parts will be kicked and marked up. Your controls, if they haven’t been refurbished and replaced by now, will not suffer abuse as gladly as they did in the 1980s. You will clear a paltry amount of money. As a collector, you probably are going to not like what happens to your machines.

I’ve seen two ways that collectors make money by putting their machines on site. One is to use the games as an advertisement for private sales/service/trade. Those machines I mentioned at the local record store? They don’t earn much, but the owner sticks his business card in the marquee and around the bezel, offering to buy/sell/trade/repair games. He gets almost nothing from the coinbox, but he has been able to unload some of his unwanted cabinets at decent prices to people who’ve picked up his card.

The other way is to open your own storefront retro-themed arcade, bar/dance club, or gaming cafe. You need a lot of machines, and you need to have true classics in the mix to pull it off, but I’ve seen it work, especially when it’s marketed to the right customers.

Do you live in a city with videogame development companies? They’re famous for fun lounges, and a retro game cabinet would be great employee entertainment. You’d actually be providing a service, and as such I believe you could take all (or at least most) of the coins collected.

Well, you could call my former landlady. She owns Stalling’s Store over in Pilot, and has a commerical location vacant on highway 39 if you’re interested. :slight_smile: PM me for phone number.

I’m driving distance from Redmond, WA, so yes. :stuck_out_tongue:

Good idea, thanks!

Is that in California? I’m in Washington.

to: rogerbox
Are you still interested in placing your arcades in someone’s business? How many machines do you own? Where are you located? I was actually searching for people/businesses that would want to put their arcades in my business.

Hi, I will send you a PM.

OK, that’s 75 watts plus 48 watts. Add a little overhead since no power supply is 100% efficient. We’ll call it 130 watts and even that’s liberal. Let’s say the machine is on 12 hours a day. That’s 1560 watt hours per day. 30 days a month, 46800 watt hours. Electricity at 15 cents a watt hour, that’s $7 a month in electricity. Not a whole lot, but 28 people need to drop a quarter in the machine per month just to cover the electricity. And you say you want to split costs. Well, electricity costs.

Oh, and is there a CRT involved anywhere here? I’d love to see a CRT (or any color display device, for that matter) that’s arcade game size and can be powered with less than 125 watts. And have power left over for the CPU.

Er yeahhhh no. Electricity is $0.079/hr in Seattle. That is half what you figured, making electricity $3.50 a month in electricity costs in your hypothetical. Considering I am supplying a machine and maintaining it, it would be a very good deal for the owner. I already posted a link on an arcade forum with data on electricity costs. It’s very cheap.

No, 14 do.

So do my games.

27" monitor 80 watts, when you don’t know what you’re talking about it’s a better idea to keep it to yourself than try to get snippy at others, m’kay?

One possibility you haven’t considered: High schools. My old high school had an arcade machine (Galaga, I think) in one of the lobbies, where some kids would play it after school or on lunch break.

do you still have arcade games. i have a store, firstcpr@yahoo.com
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thanks

Holy Shit, a double Zombie.

Also, how cool of a name for a video game is “Double Zombie”?