How do I get banned from a state?

A friend told me a story recently of an old boyfriend of hers who went into an army recruiting office in Washington State, apparently started some sort of fight, and got himself permanently kicked out of Washington. Is this even possible, and if so, what does one have to do to get such a punishment?

I trust the friend who told me this - she’s not the type to make up ridiculous stories - but she said she was never given any details of the actual incident. I went to access.wa.gov and talked to help desk representatives both online and over the phone, but neither of them could provide an answer for me, at least not in the five minutes they spent looking. Any ideas?

It’s called having a warrant out for your arrest cause you either didn’t get caught before you left the state or jumped bail. Most people with active warrants in other states that I have met phrase it in “They kicked me out of ____” as well as “I’m banned from going back to ____”.

I am certainly no expert on this but I will try to get you started. I am fairly certain you can’t get banned from a state. Think what would happen if you later got a job with the U.S. government and they sent you on a trip to the state in question and they wouldn’t let you in. I don’t think that would fly well a and there probably about 3.2 gajillion federal laws in conflict with that idea.

That said, it is possible to get yourself in a situation where it is a really good idea to stay away from a state for a while or for good. That would be mainly for civil or criminal state matters that are more likely to be pursued if you are physically present in the state.

Why do I think she was told Washington State as in university, not Washington the state. I’m sure they recruit there also.

The way she told the story, there’s no doubt that it was in reference to the entire state of Washington, not just a university, but as one of the reasons I was skeptical was that it was an old boyfriend telling her, and that may have led to some exaggeration and whatnot. I tend to think more along the lines of what ** Shagnasty** mentioned, that is, that it might just have been a really good idea for him to stay away, and he blew it up into more than it was, at least originally.

Back in the day a bunch of people were banished from Massachussets: http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/halew/Mass-Banishment-Act.html

There are also writs of ne exeat: http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=co&vol=1999sc\sc0521a&invol=1

It is possible (though very unlikely) that he may have been convicted of a crime and that one of the conditions of his sentence was to remain outside of the state. It would only remain in force while he was under the court’s jurisdiction, usually no more than two years.

Twice in my career I’ve seen a judge do this to prevent someone from entering our city, and I’ve heard of it a couple of times preventing someone from being in a particular county.

I had a friend get caught counterfeiting money. Not only did he get banned from the state (for a few years anyways), but I’m thinking most government work isn’t going to be in his future at this point.

Although most crimes would be something that is dealt with at the state level, I am pretty sure counterfeiting isn’t one of those. Was he printing up fake cheese and brandy gift certificates?

Of course there would have to be a pretty good reason for the banishment today because of the right to travel cases: http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=526&invol=489#fr1.12

and see, http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/RL32664.pdf (discussing the standards at 11-12.)

But see,

and *Doe v. Miller * 405 F.3d 700, 2005 U.S. App. LEXIS 7435 (8th Cir. 2005), cert. denied, 126 S. Ct. 757; 163 L. Ed. 2d 574; 2005 U.S. LEXIS 8630; 74 U.S.L.W. 3322 (upholding ban on convicted sex offenders living within 2000 feet of a school or childcare facility): http://www.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/05/04/041568P.pdf

I’ve got a vague recollection that some states used to effectively expel people (as a condition of probation), but that was overturned (probably on the right to travel basis mentioned by Gfactor), and that the fallback position was to ban the convict from all but one remote, undesireable county. I want to say this happened in Georgia.

I’ll see what I can track down.

No luck on the Georgia case so far. Here’s a discussion from a California case:

http://fsnews.findlaw.com/cases/ca/caapp4th/slip/2006/g037152.html
Banishment from a state appears to raise Constitutional problems.

Here’s some evidence that, as recently as 2005, Georgia was banishing convicts to a small area of the state, presumably to avoid Constitutional problems with complete banishment from the state.

Here’s some evidence that, as recently as 2005, Georgia was banishing convicts to a small area of the state, presumably to avoid Constitutional problems with complete banishment from the state.

Nice find. At a minimum any banishment by a state will be subject to strict scrutiny.

I’d have thought that the *ne exeat * cases and cases involving parole and probation conditions that prohibit leaving a state would be subject to the same objections.

Also, intrastate bans are still controversial, but less so:

*Doe v. Miller *

He lived in Illinois, but was living in some college dorms in Wisconsin. He was sent back home.

Thanks very much for all the help, especially Gfactor and Random. I’d buy you a beer or something, but . . . would you be satisfied with a nice smile? :smiley: