How do parents adjust after leaving a child in a hot car?

I don’t recall where I read it (so no cite), but I have the impression that the majority of relationships do break up after an event like this. Unsurprisingly. It’s one of those devastating events that change your life completely and stay with you forever. There would be no forgetting.

I must admit, I used to think the parent involved was totally at fault in every sense of the word. I used to think that they just weren’t stepping up to the responsibility and were uncaring / not properly aware and concerned about their child. I remember thinking that I had never even left ice cream in the car, so surely people shouldn’t forget they had a child. I did some reading, the above link as well as some others and it totally reversed my opinion. And I get the whole ‘perfect storm’ overriding your habitual brain thing now. And my heart goes out to those poor parents.

I still maintain that I do believe it happens on purpose / through criminal negligence from time to time (intentionally leaving a child in a car, resulting in death). I don’t think every case should be dealt with in an ‘oh they’ve suffered enough, more than anything the legal system could do to them’ way, because it should be determined whether it was a horrible accident, or bad judgement gone wrong. I just now think that is a very very tiny percentage of cases and the majority of the time it’s just a horrendous tragedy.

One of the secondary points of the article concerned the large difference in the ways these cases are treated. Some are never prosecuted, some prosecuted very actively, all depending on where the incident occurs. Forgive the tangent as I’m unfamiliar with the American legal system, but is that the case with all deaths? The prosecutor has the discretion to prosecute or not, based on their own opinion?

Yes. In all cases of possible crime, the prosecutor, usually the district attorney (DA), decides whether to press charges and what the charges are.

But the decision’s not really based solely “on their own opinion”: they get input from, e.g., police who informed them of the death and the medical examiner’s report on the body. When somebody I know committed suicide last year, the medical examiner kept custody of the remains until the DA’s office determined that no foul play was suspected and no criminal investigation would be conducted.

Also, past the point in time where all the safety measures we see today were as much in place then. Obviously, as the statistics bear out, part if the problem is that what we all grew up used to (having our children in the front seat) plays a huge part in the tragedies we see take place now (where they are in the back seat and not always easily seen or heard). It’s those details, combined with the examples of the distractions (or upsets in routines), that illustrate to anyone willing to actually think about it and comprehend the possibilities beyond holier-than-thou knee-jerk reactions, how this sort of thing happens. And have compassion.

It’s also absolutely something that happens to everyone, as we see in this thread. The difference is that these people were fortunate enough to catch things in time before something horrific befell their children. Unfortunately, not everyone is so lucky. That’s the entire point and it’s one of those things that you’d hope most would realize it’s a “But for the grace of God go I.” type prospects.

Which was nothing but a mild form of threadshitting, given that nobody here was trying in any way to “excuse” leaving a child in a hot car.

Fine, then go find somebody who is advocating “abdicating responsibility for ones own actions and making excuses”, and scold them for it to your heart’s content. But that’s not what this thread is about.

There’s a difference between trying to excuse or deny responsibility for an inadvertent act and trying to understand how it happened and what caused it, in order to understand how the person responsible copes with that responsibility.

Would this baby-remembering trick work?

  1. Get a standard picture of your baby in a frame and make it into a necklace. Or put it on a heavy chain. Anything to make it uncomfortable and so unforgettable.

  2. Wear it whenever you drive with the baby.

  3. When you get out of the car take the necklace off. This will remind you to get the baby

  4. If you forget to remove the necklace either

a) Wearing the necklace will remind you of the baby

b) You’ll look down and see the picture and remember baby’s in the car.

c) Somebody will comment on your baby’s picture and you will remember it’s in the car.

I’m sure this or any other memory-prodding habit would definitely help in avoiding such incidents. The thing is, though, such incidents are so rare in the first place that any memory-prodding habit quickly becomes just an unthinking routine. When you’re really immersed in a major memory lapse, there’s no guarantee that any unthinking routine will snap you out of it.

While the outcome is the same, there’s a huge moral difference between having a common accident that ends in death, and murdering someone.

But if you’re wearing a large picture of your baby someone is going to comment. If that doesn’t trigger your memory I don’t know what will.

If you happen to see someone within the half-hour or so it would take for hyperthermia to strike, yes. And that’s assuming that you always remember to take the baby-picture necklace with you and always remember to wear it while the baby’s in the car and always remember never to absent-mindedly take it off before the baby’s out of the car.

But if we’re going to assume that you always unfailingly 100% remember something, let’s just cut to the chase and assume that you always unfailingly 100% remember to take the baby out of the car. Problem solved, and without having to deal with any clunky necklaces.

The point is that reinforcing one mechanical routine (getting baby into and out of car) with another mechanical routine (putting on and taking off baby-picture necklace) doesn’t guarantee that you won’t make a mistake.

The safety engineers I work with do not have anything to do with auto or child safety, but they would say many of these suggestions for prompting a parent’s memory with a teddy bear or a worn item have one intrinsic flaw: they are administrative controls rather than engineering controls.

Administrative controls (basically, rules to be followed by the person(s) performing the operation) can enhance safety, but they have a poor reputation because they depend entirely on the operator being aware of them, understanding them, and following them, every time.

Engineering controls are either changes to the process itself to skip dangerous steps, or functional barriers to unsafe operation, such as the lawnmower that turns off if you lose your grip on the deadman switch. They are much more reliable (when properly designed and if not disabled accidentally or deliberately).

This is essentially a technological problem, and presumably it will some day be mitigated by technology (in this case, an engineering control). The same system that now says “Your door is ajar” will some day say “Your baby is in the back seat” (perhaps with varying tone and wording so as not to become familiar and taken for granted), and provide life support for the child until the issue is resolved (also dialing 911 if you do not retrieve the child within a certain amount of time after the alarm). Or a car that cannot be turned off with a living person inside. Or something like that.

We should, of course, continue to try to use administrative controls anyway, but some day the engineering solution will make this already rare type of tragedy much rarer (I’m not going to claim it will be entirely eliminated even then.)

I definitely remember a case where it was intent. I think it was a mother who left all three of her kids to die in a hot car, because she wanted out. Might’ve been in the UK? I tried googling, but it just turns up loads of different cases of children being left in hot cars.

It does sound pretty good. You could always leave the necklace in the baby’s car seat, so when you put the baby in you need to take the necklace out and vice-versa. Then you need to make sure the necklace makes you look like an idiot, so people at work would comment.

Of course, Sailboat is right: it’s still about the holes in the cheese lining up. The day that it all goes wrong is the day your brain circumvents the necklace trick.

It’s also worth remembering that these deaths are horrible and shocking, but actually vanishingly rare. If the steps you take to minimise risk is too much it won’t seem worth it anymore.

Then call them a killer. In almost every case the definition of ‘murder’ is ‘unlawful killing’, so it’d be difficult to call it murder without taking a legal stance. You wouldn’t argue that intent is morally important in such circumstances? Take this hypothetical - while you and said family members were drinking, a drunk driver plows into your car killing your kid. I very much doubt you’d label yourself a murderer for simply leaving your child in an inopportune position. If one of the tragic events that happened in the article happened to one of your kids, say leaving your grandkid in a car, would you label them a murderer? The simple fact, and it is a FACT, is that *anyone *can forget *anything *at anytime, because the human body and the brain especially is extraordinarily flawed for all sorts of reasons. I mean look at the people it happens to, from college educated lawyers to unemployed welfare-bums. If you don’t accept it as fact, I doubt anything short of accidentally leaving your grandkid in the car would convince you.

Also all the tricks that leave a human operator in the equation are going to be flawed, because if the human operator was actually always capable such events wouldn’t happen in the first place. I’d second a rig that makes it impossible to turn the car off as long as there is a child in a child seat in it, since it seems the most likely of the above solutions to work. In some rare cases I could see a parent putting their kid in another seat to be able to turn the car off to run a quick errand, but at least then they’d have a reminder their kid is in the car, so cases like leaving the kid in the car while at work couldn’t happen.

As for my own short story, I’m not sure how relevant it is, but I got locked in the trunk once in early grade school (forget which grade). I’d come home from school and gotten the bright idea to play in the trunk, then closed the lid and found myself locked in there. My grandma was the only one home, and doing yardwork way in the backyard, so my beating the car and screaming and crying went unnoticed for almost a half hour. Given that this was in Hawaii during the summer, should she not have come to the front of the house (kitchen) to get a drink of water when she did, it would be only too easy to imagine other scenarios playing out.

That front seat back seat thing must be a regional difference. As far back as I can recall, and certainly when my kids were young, the baby seat was in the back seat never in the front. You didn’t put a kid in the front until they were big enough to use the seatbelt without a booster.

Maybe, but I think it’s more a generational difference. Sounds like you’re younger than what that post was referring to. That post was, I think, partly about contrasting with a time (pre-1990-ish, maybe?) when toddlers didn’t tend to have their own seats at all, and babies were usually in someone’s lap/arms.

But also, the recommended age at which children are moved from rearward-facing to forward-facing child seats was shifted up just a few years ago, from something like eight months to something like eighteen months.

I don’t know how these poor parents cope, but I do know from experience how easily it can happen. I took all four kids to Wal Mart, got inside the store with the older 3, counted heads, got the 2 year old in the cart, and was assigning a time to meet up (the older two were old enough to go off by themselves), when suddenly my 10 year old said, “Wait, where’s the baby?”
Honest to God, I looked at him for a few seconds like I’d never heard of a baby. All of a sudden it hit us and we were back out to the car, where the Weeping Princess (then just about 4 months old) was still soundly sleeping, strapped into her car seat. We had all been in and out of the back seat, unstrapping and getting everyone out, and somehow we ALL completely forgot her.
Luckily it was a cool day and all was well, but it haunted me. What if it had been hot? What if my kid hadn’t wondered where the baby was? How long would I have buzzed about my business before I realized what I’d done?
<shudders> It still makes me sick to think about it.

Several years ago I worked at Animal Control over the summer. One of the worst cases my seasoned coworker (she’s worked there for 20 years) had ever seen involved two English setters being left in a locked car for 9 hours on a 90+ degree day. The scene was horrific. The owner of the dogs, who had just adopted a baby from South America and had completely forgotten that the dogs were in the car, was in absolute hysterics. Her neighbor, a firefighter, hosed the dogs down, but they were already gone. In fact, in their death throws one of the dogs had bitten down on the gas pedal so hard that they had to break her jaw in order to remove her from the car. :frowning:

It’s not a regional difference, it’s a time difference.

When I was a baby/toddler/young child a lot of cars didn’t even have seat belts - they were an option, not a requirement. Needless to say, infant and child seats weren’t required and even if you had one no one had really done any studies to figure out the optimum way to use them.

You know, aviation didn’t become the safest mode of transportation by people saying “there’s no excuse for crashing an airplane, any pilot that fails to make a safe landing is a murderer.” No, aviation became safer by people studying WHY otherwise conscientious and careful pilots didn’t stupid stuff like fly into the side of a mountain everyone knew was right there.

You can studying the “why” without needing to approve of the “how”.

There is something called “human factors” at work, and at a certain point it’s not about how to change the human in the equation but how to make sure human nature and its flaws don’t become dangerous. Of course, that can also make for uncomfortable study because it often reveals we are ALL at risk to at least a small degree.

This isn’t a situation where increased punishment is going to deter anyone, because there is no intent to harm or kill. It’s an interaction between humans and technology that can go very wrong. Your use of the word “murder” implies intent - there was no intent to harm here and that’s why it’s the wrong word to use.

And let’s not forget, one of the hidden factors here is the modern front-seat airbag, which is WHY there is such a mandate to put kids in the back. We started doing that because a front-seat airbag can and has killed kids that were in the front seat. Sometimes a safety device can actually CAUSE injury or death, and car airbags are a great illustration of that. Overall they’ve reduced death and some injuries but they aren’t without a cost. Adding yet another layer of safety on top - putting the kids in the back - has the knock-on effect of increasing a certain type of accident. If we add another layer on top of that, some sort of other warning mechanism, we may yet see some other weird, unanticipated danger come from that. That doesn’t mean we should abolish airbags or putting kids in the back seat because overall those have been good things, but we should look into how to prevent the bad side effects of those things.

This, from the article, sums it up for me:

“Humans, Hickling said, have a fundamental need to create and maintain a narrative for their lives in which the universe is not implacable and heartless, that terrible things do not happen at random, and that catastrophe can be avoided if you are vigilant and responsible.”

I’ve been vigilant all my life and still I’ve had several of those moments where it’s only been luck, or the swiss cheese NOT lining up, that prevented tragedy and heartbreak.

When she was two, my daughter wandered out of our yard. My next door neighbour happened to look out her window, saw her sitting in the middle of the road, and raced out and grabbed her. I had only just realised she wasn’t in her room like I thought she was when my neighbour arrived at my door with her. That was over 25 years ago and I can still remember my horror and guilt and fear like it was yesterday.

What if my neighbour hadn’t been at home? What if she hadn’t looked out the window? What if my daughter had been run over before my neighbour could get to her? What if I had seen my daughter on the road and ran to get her but she was hit by a car and killed right in front of me? Would I have deserved that?

There is no difference between me and the parent whose child wanders into the street and gets killed by a passing car. I’m not a better or worse parent than the one whose child does get killed. It’s just that I was lucky. Incredibly lucky.

I don’t understand people who think that they would ‘never’ forget their child was in the car. Several people have already posted that it’s happened to them - without the tragic outcome, thank god.

I’m just so grateful that none of my mistakes, none of my lapses, and none of those ‘perfect storm’ moments resulted in any permanent harm to my children.

Here is one recent case with slightly different facts, that might illustrate some of the principles discussed here. The mother parked her car in a motel lot, exposed to full Florida sun, for an hour or two, while she sat with her boyfriend in his car in the next space over (they were having an affair). She left her 18-month-old in her car during that time with no AC, but she says that she thought the baby would be OK because she left the fan on and left her a sippy cup of water. She says that she looked over from time to time and the baby seemed fine. Of course, when she got back into her car, the baby was in extremis from heatstroke and later died at a hospital. The mother is being charged with manslaughter and neglect.

You can see how this incident is somewhat different and potentially more blameworthy than the ones above. It’s the difference between failed memory and bad judgment. Clearly, unlike the the incidents we’ve seen upthread, she intentionally left the baby in the car. Still, almost as clearly, she was not intending to kill the girl. She left the girl unsupervised in a situation that she thought was safe but was not, and the case is probably going to turn on whether any reasonable person could have thought that was a good decision.

Well, I’ll answer the OP with a real-life anecdote, but unlike the others here there’s no “whew” moment or happy ending. I admit it’s also not about leaving a child in a car, but it is about a parent who made a fatal mistake in judgment.

In the 1960s (early season Mad Men territory), my parents, having grown up in Brooklyn tenements as the children of immigrants, were now, thanks to my father’s increasingly successful business, suddenly middle class. As such, they did what many people of their generation and new status did: they went for the full suburban lifestyle. Long Island single-family home, large lawn for Pop to mow on weekends, and an above-ground pool for their two kids: my brother (10) and sister (6). (I wasn’t born yet.)

A couple of days after my mom’s birthday, while my father was at work and my mom was naturally doing the stuff young housewives of those days did–laundry, cleaning, and keeping the kids who were now around the house all day (aside from when they were playing with neighbor kids) out of her hair.

One note: my mom was loving and overprotective, like many Jewish moms (or non-Jewish, for that matter), and thought the sun rose and set for her children, would do anything she could for them if it were in her power. Just want to make sure that’s stated and underlined. Anyone who claims what happened next was intentional is going to get pitted and pitted like you’ve never been pitted before.

That July day, she watched her kids get into the pool, my sister as usual not budging from the side (it was shallow enough for even a six-year-old to stand), my brother swimming and diving and playing undersea explorer games or whatever an early 1960s boy would’ve done. He was an excellent swimmer, had medals and so on. My sister couldn’t yet swim, which is why she usually stayed by the edge.

Anyway, from what I understand, my mom was as usual watching them for a while, but something called her attention away. A phone call? A shift in the laundry cycle? I have no idea, because this day is something that was never ever spoken about while I grew up. All I know is that before she went into the house, she told her smart, ultimately responsible son to watch out for his sister.

This kind of “letting the kids play by themselves” mentality was pretty typical of parents in those days. Again going back to Mad Men, there were a few scenes of Betty getting annoyed to see her daughter Sally wrapped in a plastic dry cleaning bag not because the girl was in danger of suffocation, but because she might have dumped the clothes somewhere and gotten them wrinkled.

Anyway. The rest is culled from a police report and the very vague memories of the only witness to what happened next.

For the next five- to ten-minutes, my sister watched my brother playing around, swimming about under water, being rough-and-tumble and probably scaring her annoyingly because that’s what big brothers do. At some point he went underwater and splashed around for a while, probably pretending to be someone like Jacques Cousteau. But after a while he didn’t emerge. He was just splashing his legs under the water. My sister started yelling at him to stop scaring her.

My mother heard the yells and ran out of the house to find her son had caught his arms or leg or head–I’m not sure which, I don’t remember the police report)–in the rungs of the small pool ladder. Mom immediately jumped into the pool, extricated her child, and dragged his now-motionless body to the grass. She then grabbed my sister out as well, told her to stay put, and then tore through the yard desperately yelling for help but clearly knowing it was too late. Neighbors later reported to the police that they heard her screaming over and over, “He’s dead! My son is dead!” My sister remembers holding her brother’s head, seeing his blue face, and still vaguely thinking he was tricking her.

The police and doctors arrived, and my mother was described as hysterical. Not long after, my father got a call at work from one of their family friends to come home immediately. No other information. When he arrived, he learned he no longer had a son.

To answer the OP’s question, how did parents react to a tragedy they inadvertently caused? In my mom’s case, she never recovered completely nor forgave herself, and fully expected to have some kind of karmic punishment (as if losing her son wasn’t enough) for her negligence. A happy young suburban family became encased in grief and guilt and unspoken shame. I don’t know how my parents stayed married after that; how did Pop not blame Mom for what happened? The very, very few times he and I ever spoke on this topic (when I was in my 30s), he actually blamed himself for deciding to get the pool in the first place, and he wept over the fact that Mom never forgave herself. He still would not, could not, blame her aloud.

Going back to the immediate aftermath: my father and mother took my sister to a child psychiatrist after the incident–somehow they were psychologically aware enough to know she might be traumatized (and she was, but only years later did it manifest itself as severe survivor’s guilt). But of course they never went themselves. (In their circle it wasn’t done.) Nowadays there’d be support groups urged on them, but they didn’t have that sort of system back then. So there was no real outlet or understanding of what steps they might take to start, somehow, recovering. The only advice, tacit most like, was “move on, have more kids, don’t speak of this lest you bring up bad memories.”

They had two more daughters, with me as the last born almost exactly three years later. This is all hindsight knowledge, by the way, because not only was this incident not discussed while I was growing up, my brother was never discussed. I never even knew I had one until I was about 10 myself, and even then my mother told me he died from being hit by a car. (Ostensibly to make sure I wasn’t afraid of water myself, but as an adult I’ve become more aware that this was also a story told because Mom was terrified to be asked the inevitable question: “But where were you, mommy?”)

Mom suffered from depression and didn’t take care of herself. She became overprotective to the nth degree of her surviving daughter and the two daughters she had after the accident. Hell, I wasn’t allowed to take a bath alone until I was 10, and even after that the rule was that I had to sing and make noise the whole time so my mother could hear me from her bedroom.

Actually, it was my failure to do so one evening when I was about 12 that led me to learn the truth. When she couldn’t hear me, she burst into the bathroom, wild-eyed, and then yelled at me for not making enough noise. I was probably a bit snarky and rolled my eyes, saying something like, “I’m a big girl, Mom, what’s the big deal already?” And she blurted out in a vicious voice I’d never, ever heard from her before: “My son drowned!” Then, horrified by what she said and probably shaken to the core, she left the room. I quietly sat there, stunned, and then silently let the water out of the tub, got into my pajamas, and went to my sister (the closer one in age; my oldest sister was in college by then) to ask what Mom had meant by that. She told me, and finally I knew the real story. And felt like a horrible horrible daughter for invoking this kind of memory in my mother. As if not knowing were my fault, or as if I even needed to “invoke” the memory–like she didn’t live with it every day.

The bizarre unspoken rule of silence in my family, the secrecy and the fear of causing my mother more grief and guilt were so strong that afterward I never went to my mom to ask any questions or apologize or do whatever would’ve probably been natural after such a confrontation. And she, in what I will admit was a really bad decision on her part, didn’t seek me out later, sit me down, and explain her words either. I kind of understand this, even though I think it was absolutely the wrong way to behave. I just think she felt that kids should trust their parents and think them wise, and she probably was afraid I’d never trust her again, or would look down on her, or maybe in her worst nightmares would hate her for killing the brother I never knew.

As I said, she seemed to live the rest of her life waiting for the hammer of fate to punish her. She didn’t help by smoking too much, not going to the doctor, and rarely going out to enjoy life. Pop, for his part, tried to encourage Mom to go out with him on weekends. He had a vastly different POV from her. He was a survivor and didn’t want his kids to be afraid of life, so he pushed us (rather obnoxiously, I say with love) to do things I personally was terrified to do, such as diving or even just learning to swim or skiing. As I said, my mom was overprotective and watchful to a fault with her youngest children, not surprisingly, and I pretty much learned by osmosis that the world was a scary place, that water was deadly (and this was even before I knew about my brother’s mode of death), that not being by your mom’s side or telling her exactly where you go and what you were doing was the express train to horrible disaster of some unspecified kind.

I grew up believing my Mom’s perspective. To me, my father was reckless. I even thought he was willfully putting my life at risk by forcing me to try to learn how to swim. (Totally backwards thinking, right?)

She never went to visit my brother’s grave. I don’t think I ever heard her mention his name. I know she discussed him with my oldest sister, who knew him, because my sister had some psychological problems related to his death and her guilt for not saving him or even knowing that he was in trouble (at age six!). But my mom just couldn’t bear bringing up that day. It ate her up inside.

Meanwhile, Mom became semi-obsessed with smoothing our way through life. I was afraid of nursery school? She kept me home so I didn’t have to suffer. (Or learn how to handle myself, but she didn’t think of that.) I was shy and didn’t want to go to camp? I was kept at home. I didn’t have to make phone calls, I had help doing homework, I was allowed to stay home sick quite a lot for very little reason when I faked colds mainly because I hated school (again, very shy and alone). I never planned for the future, was never taught how to plan for the future, probably because my Mom lived her life, and thus taught us how to live ours, assuming that the future was a bad, frightening and utterly unpredictable thing. No point planning for a better life, because one day you’ll turn your head for ten minutes and death will result. Even my father had this aspect in him too, though he had a more hopeful perspective, he too seemed to live life one day at a time–and not in the good sense. They never discussed college plans or career plans with me. In fact, I pretty much grew up not thinking or being able to visualize a future. I couldn’t fathom leaving my mom’s home, so therefore I wasn’t going to college, and thus there was no point planning on going away to school. I was actually shocked when my parents made me go. I picked three schools, none of which I cared about, and got into two. Even then I didn’t think I’d really be going. But somehow I did.

(To this day–and I’m 46 now–I have to fight against the mindset that if I can’t envision something happening down the road, it will never happen. Amazing how far-reaching this death was. As I said, I wasn’t even born when my brother died, never knew him or even of his existence for my first ten years, but I was still affected by the tragedy.)

Finally, when her two younger daughters made it to their teen years, Mom started bit by bit to come out of her cocoon. Maybe because we’d finally gotten past the age my brother was when he died; she may have felt somehow she’d successfully escaped the Punishment. By the time I went off to college at 18 she was starting to find some interests outside of the house.

But when she started feeling ill, she didn’t go to the doctor because she probably suspected the worst. And it was the worst: lung cancer. I can only imagine she thought to herself when the doctor gave her the diagnosis: “At last. It’s happening.” She died seven months later–also in July, like her son–at only 56. I was 19.

I’m sorry for what’s basically a huge article or blog post. But I’m just answering the OP with one anecdote of how a parent reacts when her/his actions lead to an accidental death. Black depression and self-loathing, attempts to overcompensate via protecting other children, inability to trust happiness, such all-encompassing guilt that even the dead child’s name couldn’t be mentioned, and an utter certainty that punishment would be visited upon her, to the point where she hastened it along by passively committing suicide via cigarettes. She was her own judge, jury and, in a way, executioner.

To her, she was primarily the woman who killed her firstborn child. And I’m sure to some of the less-compassionate people in this thread, that’s all she was. But it’s not true. Yes, a beloved young boy died due to her unthinking negligence. But Mom was still a wonderful, beautiful, compassionate, smart, loving, funny, thoughtful, kind person. Her ability to see that died along with her son on July 27, 1963.