There it is again. The “its too haaaarrd” whine. :rolleyes:
Yep, losing weight is hard. It takes self-discipline and willpower. If you’re too lazy to exercise those traits, then it’s your own fault you’re fat.
I used to eat Lean Cuisine a long time ago. Now I wouldn’t touch one. And here’s why (ingredients from Chicken with Basil Cream Sauce) -
Blanched macaroni product (water, semolina, wheat gluten), skim milk, cooked chicken breast with rib pesto glazed smoke flavor added (cooked chicken breast meat with rib meat, water, chicken flavor (dehydrated chicken broth, chicken powder, flavor, salt, modified corn starch, salt, spice, glazed with: water, seasoning (sugar, (dehydrated romano cheese and blue cheese {part skim cow’s milk, cheese cultures, pasteurized cow’s milk, salt, enzymes}, spices, salt, modified food starch, dehydrated garlic dehydrated onion, citric acid, (dehydrated flavorings {(modified food starch, corn syrup solids, flavor, smoke flavor, partially hydrogenated soybean oil), dehydrated flavor (maltodextrin, citric acid, gum arabic, natural flavor}, extractives of garlic, olive oil), water, red peppers, ywllow peppers, 2% or less of cream, parmesan cheese (cultured milk, salt, enzymes), soybean oil, modified cornstarch, bleached wheat flour, basil, asiago cheese (pasteurizred milk, salt, cheese cultures, salt, enzymes), water, salt, lactic acid, citric acid), extra virgin olive oil, garlic puree, enzyme modified parmesan cheese (cultured milk, water, salt, enzymes), whey protein concentrate, cheese flavor (cheddar cheese (cultured milk, salt, enzymes), water, salt, enzymes, cultures, phosphoric acid, xanthan gum), dehydrated onions, potassium chloride.
This dish also contains 420 mg of salt.
From: http://www.leancuisine.com/Products/NutritionInformation.aspx?ProductID=21
If all you care about is the fact that the product only has 280 calories, that’s one thing. If you care about what comprises those 280 calories, that’s another. It doesn’t have a lot going for it nutritionally.
This is exactly the sort of product that, to me, would taste like crap and would cause me digestive problems like heartburn and also leave me feeling unsatisfied and hungry again in a short time. I’m also not comfortable consuming all those non-food ingredients for no reason. Jesus, how many different kinds of “smoke flavor” is in this stuff? Honestly, I can’t believe I used to eat stuff like this without even thinking about it.
Stoid:
Why do you overeat?
Hm. I’m not overweight (you read that part, right?), so I can’t be whining.
Some people will have to struggle to limit their consumption to the amount I eat naturally. Equally lazy people, or equally un-lazy people, can have vastly different weights, apparently for biological reasons (but perhaps you believe that genetically obese mice are just lazier than other mice).
I don’t know why you think that mentioning this fact in a discussion of obesity amounts to whining (especially when it comes from a non-obese person).
Anyway, I’m glad you were able to find one line in my post to use to express your disdain for overweight people, while ignoring the rest, including the general point.
Me, I have much more disdain for those who confuse “its” and “it’s”. I mean, really, how hard is it to keep them straight? If you can’t, you’re lazy, and it’s your own damn fault.
Losing weight is easy as pie. No effort or thought at all. Gaining more than 5 lbs of weight… now that is nigh impossible, even with sustained effort, physical discomfort, and meticulous record-keeping that takes up my valuable time.
By your logic it’s ‘my own fault’ I am underweight. I disagree. I am uniquely primed to be undersized. My activity level and how many calories I consume have, for the last 10 years of my life, had little effect on my size. I have been at various times completely inactive, a vegetarian (high-carb), extremely active, on a 4000 calorie per day weight-gain diet, doing hardcore yoga 5x per week, eating mostly animal products (low-carb). Throughout it all, from ages 14-24, I have maintained a weight of 94-104 lbs.
So again… if calories in, calories out, doesn’t apply in particular to me, why should is apply to everyone else (90% or 99% of all fat people, as people keep throwing out).
Actually, Haunted, as a packaged food goes that isn’t half bad - almost every one of those things IS a food-sounding thing, and I can spell all of it. Not as good as what I make myself, of course, but what is?
I don’t anymore, I haven’t really for years. At least, not in any way differently that everyone does: occasionally. I am a “foodie” and an excellent cook, and I derive enormous pleasure from really good food. I have a well-developed appreciation for rich food. When I have something particularly delicious available to me (usually something I’ve prepared myself), I have a difficult time restraining myself from eating as much of it as I desire to eat. And I prepare it in the first place because there are times when, for no reason that I can name, I start to think about eating something in particular and it just becomes a bigger and bigger obsession until I can’t stand it anymore and I have to have it. And unfortunately, a bite or two or one or two servings doesn’t satisfy those kinds of cravings, I will usually have to eat whatever it is for a few meals in a row before I am over it. But fortunately, that kind of thing only happens every couple of months.
But I was a very serious compulsive overeater from childhood through my 30’s. I used to eat so much I’d become ill. Day after day for me felt like Thanksgiving does for most people.
For some reason I recall three particularly shocking episodes:
Age 13 - middle school was a hellish time for me. I bought a 12 piece Pioneer fried chicken bucket and sat under a tree and ate it all.
Age 18 - Just had an abortion, lost my job, my life was a mess… I went to the market and bought a pound of thick sliced bacon and a one-pound hershey bar. I fried up the bacon and ate it, and chased it with the chocolate.
Age 24- a very good friend had died the year before and I was pretty miserable. One night I went out and stopped at Mcdonalds, got a big mac and fries…drove to Pioneer, got a chicken dinner, drove to a chinese restaurant and got fried rice and broccoli beef, and somewhere in there I know I picked up something sweet but I don’t remember what.
If you’d asked me why I was doing that when I did it, I couldn’t have given you a clear answer apart from saying what was true: I wanted it and it was all I could think about. Did I know it was nuts? Yes. Did I care? Absolutely…back then, I was abjectly miserable about my weight, my eating, and I was incredibly sensitive to shame about it. It made me crazy and I had absolutely no idea how to feel differently and if you have ever had any kind of true compulsion, you would know that you can’t just decide to ignore it permanently. I dieted off and on for 30 years, and my setpoint got higher and higher, so that now it doesn’t take very much food at all to maintain a weight that is 60 pounds heavier than the setpoint I had in my 20‘s when I was seriously out of control.
But on the other hand, my setpoint used to be about 50 pounds higher than it is NOW, so…
But on a day-to-day basis, I don’t overeat. I don’t want to overeat. I don’t have urges that I am fighting anymore. I don’t know why. I do find myself nibbling all night frequently, but in terms of total intake, it’s not at all excessive, i just eat a normal day’s food in about 4-5 hours in the evening.
If I decide to indulge in fast food, I will get cheeseburger, one of the bigger kinds. That’s all. I pretty much never get fries or other sides and I NEVER get soda. I drink water 90% of the time, and when I drink juice it’s a treat, and I have a coke about 3 times a year. Sometimes with ice cream, because i like coke floats alot. I like Popeyes, so I will get 3 wings, no sides, no biscuit.
In order to lose weight and not regain it, I have to severely restrict my eating and do so continuously. What that does is make me crazy, hungry, bitchy, and it actually re-ignites my compulsive tendencies. The way I am now, I don’t obsess over food. I have my cravings, but it’s not the centerpiece of life.
I’ve gotten very sensitive to this as well. I don’t care if it’s 280 calories, it’s all gooey white pasta and chemicals. I feel healthier eating one smoked sausage and a bowl of lentils and kashi.
Or lately I’ve been into beans. I cook up a big pot of pintos with some onion and a couple of ham hocks. A cup of those beans is filling, bursting with nutrition and fiber and damn tasty. That’s also a good way to help me eat during the day, it’s easy to heat up a small cup of beans and I like it.
This goes back to what I was saying about cigarettes. If you can’t handle the temptation to smoke, don’t buy the ciggies. Why are you making rich desserts, knowing full well that you cannot control yourself once you make them? Just STOP making cheesecake already.
Uh, okay. Wait I thought you said it was genetics that made you fat?
:rolleyes:
You will never see a miltary recruiting station inside a Wallmart.
Nor in Neiman-Marcus; and your point is?
Fuck all you fat Motherfuckers! You fuckin smell like week old dick cheese and look like over ripe cabbage pach kids not to mention you will have to catch me before you can beat my ass! Good luck and happy waddle.
If you are trying to lose weight, why are you eating “big pots” full of beans cooked in pig fat?
I don’t think I’m going to bother answering people who can’t be bothered to read the first time. It’s very disrespectful of my time and energy.
See ya.
The military is not into openly pompous cocksuckers either.
This sort of threadshitting is not acceptable in General Questions. Please stop it.
Gfactor
General Questions Moderator
No, that isn’t weird at all. Being smart about your budget is very important.
Budgeting comes naturally for me. My brain does an excellent job of keeping track of what I’ve earned and spent and I always have money being funnelled into various savings accouts (I’ve got an emergency account, a retirement account, a wedding account, and a future home account that all get money contributed every month) without any real effort on my part. I understand that what comes naturally to me does not come naturally to everyone and if someone has to sit down and crunch the numbers and have a conversation with themselves about why they need to buy a Jetta instead of a Corvette I hope they can do that and keep things in check.
What I don’t do is talk about how fucking stupid people are who can’t budget, point and laugh as people have their homes foreclosed, and generally give people a hard time because something that is so easy for me is so difficult for them. I don’t start threads here wondering about how people can be so dumb as to be in poverty. I don’t tell people on this message board who are having a hard time with money that its their own fault. You know who did that kind of stuff? Rand Rover. My hope is that the next time someone here feels the need to mock someone for being fat or ask questions like “how do people get so fat?” as thinly veiled insults or bust out the word fatty to think about how they feel about Rand Rover and his posts here and think about how similar that makes them to him. If they think he is a good model of behavior then they should feel free to make with the insults and if not they should maybe think again about what they have to say.
Yeah, And if one is good TEN of em must be better! Then ten packs of Snackwells and then a few gallons of frozen yogurt. Then sleep and dream of walking up the steps from the first floor the the second.
Umm, in case you hadn’t noticed, this thread is about “How do people get so fat?”. Cooking and eating “big pots” full of beans simmered in pig fat is…one of the answers to that question.
What/who is “rand rover”?